Red & Blue US States: Who Decides & Is There Unfairness?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the division of U.S. states into red and blue categories, questioning who decides this classification and whether it reflects unfairness. Participants explore the implications of color choices in political representation and their historical or cultural connotations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the decision-making process behind the red and blue state classification and expresses concern about the implications of using red, which has historical associations with notorious regimes.
  • Another participant dismisses the concern over color choices as trivial, suggesting that both major political parties reject the negative connotations of red and that the current system is satisfactory.
  • A participant shares a Wikipedia link for further context, indicating that the question of color choice is legitimate.
  • One participant argues that more U.S. residents would prefer blue as a political color, citing examples from board games and media where colors carry specific meanings, suggesting that blue may have a semantic advantage.
  • A later reply challenges the relevance of favorite colors to the media's representation of presidential candidates, asserting that color choices are merely visual aids that can change over time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of color choices in political representation, with no consensus reached on whether the current classification is fair or appropriate.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference cultural meanings associated with colors and their implications in political contexts, but the discussion does not resolve the underlying assumptions or historical context of these associations.

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In the U.S.A., states have been divided into red and blue. Who got to choose this? If I were a decider for a political party, I would want the "other guy" to be red. There have been notorious regimes that have had a red flag. A map with an increasing hord of red looks disturbing. Is there unfairness here?
 
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Please do not tell me we're going to start catering to micro-aggression based on primary colors --- there's just the one remaining, and while both major parties might deserve to claim it, both reject the connotation attached --- people are happy --- leave it that way.
 
Thanks for the link, Czcibor. I'll have to look into this. My opinion is more United States residents would prefer blue if they had to choose a "political color". In Civil War board games, look how the pieces are colored. ---and water taps, and Star Trek uniforms. Red is the dangerous member of a crew, while blue is the strategist, as with the Daleks. Colors have meaning based on conventions or opinions. I would wager that blue would win out in a national vote for the U.S.A.'s favorite color out of red, white, and blue. So what seems arbritray could actually give a visual and now semantic advantage to an assummed-to-be blue party.
 
Helios said:
Thanks for the link, Czcibor. I'll have to look into this. My opinion is more United States residents would prefer blue if they had to choose a "political color". In Civil War board games, look how the pieces are colored. ---and water taps, and Star Trek uniforms. Red is the dangerous member of a crew, while blue is the strategist, as with the Daleks. Colors have meaning based on conventions or opinions. I would wager that blue would win out in a national vote for the U.S.A.'s favorite color out of red, white, and blue. So what seems arbritray could actually give a visual and now semantic advantage to an assummed-to-be blue party.
What on Earth does a favorite color have to do with media showing which Presidential candidate carried a state? It's just a visual aid for viewers, and have changed in the past and may change in the future. Your reasons are nonsensical.
 

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