Reduction formula for ∫(lnx)^n dx

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The forum discussion focuses on deriving a reduction formula for the integral ∫(lnx)^n dx and evaluating the specific case ∫1e (lnx)^3 dx. The key result is the recurrence relation I_n = ln(x)^{n-1}x(ln(x) - 1) - (n-1)I_{n-1} + (n-1)I_{n-2}, which simplifies the evaluation of integrals involving logarithmic powers. Participants clarify the distinction between ln(x)^n and (ln x)^n, emphasizing the correct notation in mathematical expressions.

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Homework Statement



derive a reduction formula for ∫(lnx)n dx and use it to evaluate ∫1e (lnx)3dx

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In other examples we've started by saying ∫(lnx)ndx = ∫(lnx)(lnx)n-1dx and using integration by parts. So let:
f = (lnx)n-1
f' = (n-1)(lnx)n-2*1/x
g = x(lnx - 1)
g' = lnx

then ∫(lnx)ndx
= (lnx)n-1x(lnx - 1) - ∫(n-1)(lnx)n-2(lnx - 1) dx
= (lnx)n-1x(lnx - 1) - (n-1)∫(lnx)n-1 - (lnx)n-2 dx
= (lnx)n-1x(lnx - 1) - (n-1)∫(lnx)n-1 + (n-1)∫(lnx)n-2

at this point I get stuck because in all the examples I have seen we get minus the initial integral on the right and side and can add it to both sides to get n∫lnx)n dx = ... so ∫lnx)n dx =1/n[...]

Any help would be very appreciated.
 
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If ##I_n=\int\ln(x)^n.dx## then you have found the recurrence relation ##I_n=\ln(x)^{n-1}x(\ln(x) - 1) -(n-1)I_{n-1}+(n-1)I_{n-2}##.
You are not asked to solve it, except in the special case cited.
 
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haruspex said:
If ##I_n=\int\ln(x)^n.dx## then you have found the recurrence relation ##I_n=\ln(x)^{n-1}x(\ln(x) - 1) -(n-1)I_{n-1}+(n-1)I_{n-2}##.
You are not asked to solve it, except in the special case cited.
Careful. ##\ln (x)^n \neq (\ln x)^n##.

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You have solved the problem for ##n\geqslant 2## where ##I_0 :=x## may be assumed. Now use this recursive relation to evaluate the integral you need.
 
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nuuskur said:
Careful. ##\ln (x)^n \neq (\ln x)^n##.
Really? I did not write ##\ln (x^n)##. I would have thought the parentheses defined what is the argument to the function.
 
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By setting \begin{split}<br /> I_n &amp;= \int (\ln x)^n\,dx \\ <br /> &amp;= \int x \frac{(\ln x)^n}{x}\,dx \\<br /> &amp;= \int x \frac{1}{n+1}\frac{d}{dx} (\ln x)^{n+1}\,dx \\<br /> &amp;= \frac{1}{n+1}\left[x(\ln x)^{n+1}\right] - \frac1{n+1}I_{n+1} \\<br /> \end{split} (which is a standard trick for dealing with powers of \ln x) I obtain the first-order recurrence <br /> I_{n} = x(\ln x)^n - nI_{n-1},\qquad I_0 = x. This seems easier to work with than the second order recurrence given by @haruspex in #2 based on the OP's approach. That second order recurrence can be obtained from the above by subtracting I_{n-1} = x(\ln x)^{n-1} - (n-1)I_{n-2} from both sides.
 
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