Can I Transform Multiple Steel Beams into a Single Piece of Concrete?

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The discussion centers on the transformation of multiple steel beams into a single piece of concrete for the purpose of calculating the second moment of area. It is established that while it may seem reasonable to combine the beams into one concrete piece, this approach requires careful consideration of the material properties and structural design principles. The book "Reinforced Concrete Design" by Spiegel and Limbrunner is recommended for in-depth analysis, particularly regarding the distinctions between balanced, underreinforced, and overreinforced beams. The transformation also involves understanding the Young's Modulus ratio between steel and concrete.

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When I convert the steel beams to concrete, do I transform the several different beams into a single piece of concrete in order to do the calculations to find the second moment of area of the beam or do I transform each beam separately into a concrete piece?
Intuitively, t seems reasonable to just convert all the beams into a single piece of concrete as the the cross-sectional area is usually small, but if it is true is it always valid?
 
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I believe that we will need some kind of schematic, or more information at least.
 
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In a simple case like this.
 
My copy of Reinforced Concrete Design, by Spiegel and Limbrunner, has 18 pages on the design of rectangular beams with only tension steel. I recommend that you find a similar book because there is more to the analysis than what is implied in your question.

Hint: Read carefully the part about balanced vs underreinforced vs overreinforced beams.
 
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pj33 said:
In a simple case like this.
What is the material within the rest of the rectangular cross section?
Does that concrete contain steel in any shape?
 
Lnewqban said:
What is the material within the rest of the rectangular cross section?
Does that concrete contain steel in any shape?
It is a rectangular shaped concrete which has 3 beams of steal in order to reinforce it. When I transforme the 3 beams, I have converted all 3 of them to a single piece of concrete with area mA.
A is the total area of the 3 beams of steal and m is the ratio of the steal's Young's Modulus to the concrete's Young's Modulus
 

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