Relative motion with constant acceleration

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving relative motion with constant acceleration, specifically focusing on two cars decelerating at different rates. Participants are examining the implications of their initial speeds and the effects of deceleration on their motion.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the assumptions about the signs of acceleration and velocity, particularly in relation to deceleration. There are discussions about the implications of different initial speeds and the timing of when each car stops.

Discussion Status

Some participants have identified potential mistakes in their reasoning and are reflecting on the problem's complexity. There is a recognition of the need to think critically about the kinematic aspects of the situation, although no consensus has been reached regarding the final answer.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the requirement to consider the effects of deceleration and the relationship between speed and acceleration for both cars. There is an acknowledgment of the challenge presented by the problem's setup.

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Homework Statement
Two cars A and B are moving towards each other with speeds of 8m/s and 12m/s respectively. When the distance between the two cars is 102m, both drivers brake at the same time. If both cars decelerate with an acceleration of 1 m/s², how many seconds after the moment of braking will the two cars hit each other?
Relevant Equations
X=X0+V0t+(1/2)at^2
I think the question is wrong.
My answer :
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But it should be wrong because :

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I think the question is wrong … But I'm not sure …
 
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The acceleration of B can’t be positive; its velocity is never increasing.
 
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Lnewqban said:
The acceleration of B can’t be positive; its velocity is never increasing.
Slowing down means the acceleration and velocity have opposite signs, which they do.
The OP is taking the same direction as positive for all accelerations and velocities.
 
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Lnewqban said:
The acceleration of B can’t be positive; its velocity is never increasing.
haruspex said:
Slowing down means the acceleration and velocity have opposite signs, which they do.
The OP is taking the same direction as positive for all accelerations and velocities.

According to the question, the motion is decelerating.
So the sign of speed and acceleration of car A must be different. The same for B.
I observed this for both cars A and B. Could you please tell me where my mistake is ?!
 
MatinSAR said:
My answer :
Since they are initially at different speeds but decelerating at the same rate, they will not come to a stop at the same time. So you need to think about what happens when one car stops. You can’t assume it maintains the same acceleration.
 
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haruspex said:
Since they are initially at different speeds but decelerating at the same rate, they will not come to a stop at the same time. So you need to think about what happens when one car stops. You can’t assume it maintains the same acceleration.
I've founded my mistake.
Thank you for your time.
 
MatinSAR said:
I've founded my mistake.
Thank you for your time.
I like how we must stop and think\reason about this kinematic problem (not @haruspex ‘s first rodeo). I don’t think I’ve ever saw one like this. Good problem!
 
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erobz said:
I like how we must stop and think\reason about this kinematic problem (not @haruspex ‘s first rodeo). I don’t think I’ve ever saw one like this. Good problem!
Yes it was a good problem.
erobz said:
I like how we must stop and think\reason about this kinematic problem
I think the answer is 10 seconds.
 
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MatinSAR said:
I think the answer is 10 seconds.
I think so too. The first car stops after 8 seconds, having traveled 32 metres. The second car travels 70 metres in 10 seconds.
 
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