Relativity: Comparing Clocks in Different Frames

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of time dilation and the comparison of clocks in different inertial frames as described in the theory of relativity. The original poster presents a scenario involving high-speed travel over synchronized clocks on the ground and observations of a flying saucer's clock from a stationary perspective in space.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the implications of being in different inertial frames and how this affects the perception of time on clocks. They question whether clocks on the ground advance slower or faster compared to their own clock and how this relates to observations made from different frames.

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Some participants provide guidance on understanding inertial frames and the behavior of clocks in these frames. There is an ongoing exploration of how to determine which clock appears to advance faster or slower based on the observer's frame of reference. Confusion remains regarding the application of these concepts, indicating a productive dialogue is occurring.

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The original poster is new to the concepts of relativity and is seeking clarification on fundamental principles. There is an emphasis on understanding the definitions of inertial frames and the effects of relative motion on time perception.

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1) You are gliding over Earth's surface at a high speed, carrying your high-precision clock. At points X and Y on the ground are similar clocks, synchronized in the ground frame of reference. As you pass over clock X, it and your clock both read 0. (a) According to you, do clocks X and Y advance slower or faster than yours? (b) When you pass over clock Y, does it read the same time, an earlier time, or a later time than yours?

2) You are floating in space when you notice a flying saucer circling you. Each time it passes in front of you, you note the reading on its clock. Do you see its clock advancing faster or slower than your wristwatch? Does the space alien see your watch advancing faster or slower than his clock? Explain.


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I just started learning about relativity in class, so I was just wondering if my thinking is correct so far.

1) (a) The inertial frame is your own frame, because events happen at the same location in that frame right? I think that means time would advance slower in the other frame, so clocks X and Y would advance slower.
(b) If X and Y advance slower, it would read an earlier time right?

2) The inertial frame here is the space alien's frame, because events happen at same location in that frame. Therefore you would see its clock advancing faster than yours. I'm not sure about the 2nd part of this question, wouldn't yours just seem slower to the alien?

Thanks
 
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DWill said:
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2) You are floating in space when you notice a flying saucer circling you. Each time it passes in front of you, you note the reading on its clock. Do you see its clock advancing faster or slower than your wristwatch? Does the space alien see your watch advancing faster or slower than his clock? Explain.

1) (a) The inertial frame is your own frame, because events happen at the same location in that frame right? I think that means time would advance slower in the other frame, so clocks X and Y would advance slower.
(b) If X and Y advance slower, it would read an earlier time right?

2) The inertial frame here is the space alien's frame, because events happen at same location in that frame. Therefore you would see its clock advancing faster than yours. I'm not sure about the 2nd part of this question, wouldn't yours just seem slower to the alien?

Hi DWill! :smile:

1) The concept of "because events happen at same location in that frame" is strictly correct, but it's much easier to think "an inertial observer always regards other clocks as going slower".

Your (a) and (b) are correct.

2) Again you've tried to apply "because events happen at same location in that frame" … but I've no idea why you think that applies to one frame rather than the other. :confused:

Try again, with "an inertial observer always regards other clocks as going slower". :smile:
 
Thanks tiny-tim for the reply, but I'm a little confused on what you said on how to figure out which is the inertial frame. How do you know in which one the clocks go slower?
 
An inertial observer or an inertial frame is one that has uniform velocity (ie, a fixed speed in a fixed direction), and isn't rotating. :smile:
 

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