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Can we characterize the particular numerical values that can be roots of ##f(x)## ?

If ##r_1## is a root of ##f(x)## then the roots of ##2x^3 + x = r_1## are also roots of ##f(2x^3 + x)##
If it happens that ##2x^3 + x = r_1## has 3 identical roots all equal to ##r_1## then no new roots are implied. However, if ##2x^3 + x = r_1## were to have 3 distinct roots ##r_2,r_3,r_4## then the solutions to each of the equations ##2x^3 + x = r_2,\ 2x^3 +x = r_3,\ 2x^3 + x = r_4## would also be roots of ##f(2x^3 + x)##.

So some numerical values ##r_1## might lead to cascade of other roots that would exceed 3000 total roots.
 
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Stephen Tashi said:
Can we characterize the particular numerical values that can be roots of ##f(x)## ?

If ##r_1## is a root of ##f(x)## then the roots of ##2x^3 + x = r_1## are also roots of ##f(2x^3 + x)##
If it happens that ##2x^3 + x = r_1## has 3 identical roots all equal to ##r_1## then no new roots are implied. However, if ##2x^3 + x = r_1## were to have 3 distinct roots ##r_2,r_3,r_4## then the solutions to each of the equations ##2x^3 + x = r_2,\ 2x^3 +x = r_3,\ 2x^3 + x = r_4## would also be roots of ##f(2x^3 + x)##.

So some numerical values ##r_1## might lead to cascade of other roots that would exceed 3000 total roots.
the problem only hinted it as being a monic polynomial with integer coefficients and its leading term raised to 1000.
 
Terrell said:
the problem only hinted it as being a monic polynomial with integer coefficients and its leading term raised to 1000.

But (whether it's useful or not) do you see what I'm saying? For example if ##f(x)## has the factor ##(x-1)## and root ##r = 1## then ##f(2x^3 + x)## has the factor ##(2x^3 + x - 1)## so the roots of ##2x^3 + x - 1 = 0## are roots of ##f(2x^3 + x -1)##. And ##r = 1## is also a root of ##f(2x^3 + x)## since we are assuming ##f(x)## is a factor of ##f(2x^3 + x)##
 
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But (whether it's useful or not) do you see what I'm saying? For example if ##f(x)## has the factor ##(x-1)## and root ##r = 1## then ##f(2x^3 + x)## has the factor ##(2x^3 + x - 1)## so the roots of ##2x^3 + x - 1 = 0## are roots of ##f(2x^3 + x -1)##. And ##r = 1## is also a root of ##f(2x^3 + x)## since we are assuming ##f(x)## is a factor of ##f(2x^3 + x)##
hmm... interesting insight. i will keep that in mind. thank you!