Remainder factor theorem: me reason this out

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The problem involves finding the number of monic polynomials \( f(x) \) of degree 1000 with integer coefficients that can divide \( f(2x^3 + x) \). The context is rooted in polynomial division and the remainder factor theorem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of \( f(x) \) being monic and how that affects the leading coefficients of the polynomial. There are considerations about the degrees of \( f(x) \) and \( q(x) \) based on polynomial division.
  • Some participants question how the factorization of \( f(x) \) might affect the number of possible polynomials, particularly in relation to the roots and their properties.
  • There are attempts to relate the problem to the rational root theorem and considerations of the highest and lowest terms of \( q(x) \) based on the structure of \( f(x) \).
  • Participants express uncertainty about the implications of certain assumptions and explore whether the polynomial can have non-integer coefficients.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various lines of reasoning being explored. Some participants have provided insights into the structure of \( f(x) \) and its relationship to \( g(x) \), while others are questioning the assumptions and the implications of the polynomial's properties. There is no explicit consensus, but several productive directions have been identified.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem is derived from an article on the remainder factor theorem, suggesting that it may be more complex than initially anticipated. There is also a recognition of the constraints imposed by the degree of the polynomial and the requirement for integer coefficients.

  • #31
Can we characterize the particular numerical values that can be roots of ##f(x)## ?

If ##r_1## is a root of ##f(x)## then the roots of ##2x^3 + x = r_1## are also roots of ##f(2x^3 + x)##
If it happens that ##2x^3 + x = r_1## has 3 identical roots all equal to ##r_1## then no new roots are implied. However, if ##2x^3 + x = r_1## were to have 3 distinct roots ##r_2,r_3,r_4## then the solutions to each of the equations ##2x^3 + x = r_2,\ 2x^3 +x = r_3,\ 2x^3 + x = r_4## would also be roots of ##f(2x^3 + x)##.

So some numerical values ##r_1## might lead to cascade of other roots that would exceed 3000 total roots.
 
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  • #32
Stephen Tashi said:
Can we characterize the particular numerical values that can be roots of ##f(x)## ?

If ##r_1## is a root of ##f(x)## then the roots of ##2x^3 + x = r_1## are also roots of ##f(2x^3 + x)##
If it happens that ##2x^3 + x = r_1## has 3 identical roots all equal to ##r_1## then no new roots are implied. However, if ##2x^3 + x = r_1## were to have 3 distinct roots ##r_2,r_3,r_4## then the solutions to each of the equations ##2x^3 + x = r_2,\ 2x^3 +x = r_3,\ 2x^3 + x = r_4## would also be roots of ##f(2x^3 + x)##.

So some numerical values ##r_1## might lead to cascade of other roots that would exceed 3000 total roots.
the problem only hinted it as being a monic polynomial with integer coefficients and its leading term raised to 1000.
 
  • #33
Terrell said:
the problem only hinted it as being a monic polynomial with integer coefficients and its leading term raised to 1000.

But (whether it's useful or not) do you see what I'm saying? For example if ##f(x)## has the factor ##(x-1)## and root ##r = 1## then ##f(2x^3 + x)## has the factor ##(2x^3 + x - 1)## so the roots of ##2x^3 + x - 1 = 0## are roots of ##f(2x^3 + x -1)##. And ##r = 1## is also a root of ##f(2x^3 + x)## since we are assuming ##f(x)## is a factor of ##f(2x^3 + x)##
 
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Stephen Tashi said:
But (whether it's useful or not) do you see what I'm saying? For example if ##f(x)## has the factor ##(x-1)## and root ##r = 1## then ##f(2x^3 + x)## has the factor ##(2x^3 + x - 1)## so the roots of ##2x^3 + x - 1 = 0## are roots of ##f(2x^3 + x -1)##. And ##r = 1## is also a root of ##f(2x^3 + x)## since we are assuming ##f(x)## is a factor of ##f(2x^3 + x)##
hmm... interesting insight. i will keep that in mind. thank you!
 

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