Remainder when the dividend is less than the divisor

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The discussion revolves around the concept of remainders in division, particularly when the dividend is less than the divisor, using the example of dividing 4 by 5. Participants explore the implications of this scenario in both mathematical and practical contexts.

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  • One participant questions why the remainder is 4 when dividing 4 by 5, suggesting that the division should yield a remainder of 0 since the result is a decimal.
  • Another participant explains that the remainder is what is left after subtracting the divisor from the dividend as many times as possible.
  • A third participant introduces the Euclidean algorithm, stating that in the case of 4 divided by 5, the equation can be expressed as 4 = 0·5 + 4, emphasizing the distinction between integer division and rational division.
  • Several participants provide analogies involving practical scenarios, such as dividing cars among children, to illustrate the concept of remainders and the challenges of fractional division.
  • Some participants discuss the implications of co-ownership of items, suggesting that practical considerations can complicate the division of whole items.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of remainders in division, with some emphasizing mathematical definitions while others focus on practical implications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the conceptual understanding of remainders in cases where the dividend is less than the divisor.

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Participants reference different number fields and practical scenarios, indicating that the understanding of remainders may depend on context and definitions used in mathematical operations.

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This discussion may be of interest to those exploring foundational concepts in mathematics, particularly in relation to division and remainders, as well as individuals seeking to understand practical applications of these concepts.

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I am Sorry it's a silly question but its been bothering me, So I needed to ask...
In the process of division, when there is a condition like- 4/5
when the divisor is greater then the dividend.
why is the Remainder 4 ? as when the divisor is greater then the dividend then the division goes in decimals, and the final remainder comes
outto be 0, then why do we do like this.
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Because a remainder is what left after subtracting a divisor from a dividend as many times as possible.
 
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It is because we have the equation ##4= 0\cdot 5 + 4.## It is the general form of the Euclidean algorithm that considers ##a= q\cdot b +r .## It is what happens if we divide ##a=4## by ##b=5## with a remainder ##r.##

The basic idea is to do everything with addition and multiplication only since the integers do not allow a division. In order to divide, we need to use the rational or real numbers. Then we can write ##\dfrac{4}{5}=0.8## without remainders. But over the integers, we have ##4= 0\cdot 5 + 4.##

Long story short: it depends on which number field you use.
 
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If the remainder upon division of 4 by 5 is not 4, then what is the alternative?
 
Some things make no sense as a fraction and you would want to know how much is left over.
If my will divided 5 cars between 2 children, I would give each child 2 cars and have one left over. I would not give each child 2.5 cars. (Which half of a car would each get?)
 
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Some things make no sense as a fraction and you would want to know how much is left over.
If my will divided 5 cars between 2 children, I would give each child 2 cars and have one left over. I would not give each child 2.5 cars. (Which half of a car would each get?)
You might have to be specific in your will as to which child gets which cars.
 
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Some things make no sense as a fraction and you would want to know how much is left over.
If my will divided 5 cars between 2 children, I would give each child 2 cars and have one left over. I would not give each child 2.5 cars. (Which half of a car would each get?)

It is possible for two or more people to co-own a car in equal (or unequal) shares. (Although it may be that only one of them can be the registered keeper.)
 
pasmith said:
It is possible for two or more people to co-own a car in equal (or unequal) shares. (Although it may be that only one of them can be the registered keeper.)
Sure. But they may not want to share it or sell it.
 
PeroK said:
You might have to be specific in your will as to which child gets which cars.
Yes, but the point is that it might not be easy to divide them equally.
 
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Yes, but the point is that it might not be easy to divide them equally.
No problem. Give me the Bentley and the others the rest of your cars.
 
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Thanks for helping me guys, my doubt is resolved😊.
 
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