Removing Extraneous Factors from Einstein Action

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The discussion centers on transforming the action integral \int \alpha \sqrt{g} R to isolate the field \alpha from the coefficient of R. The solution involves a field redefinition rather than a coordinate transformation, specifically referencing the "Jordan frame" and "Einstein Frame" in "Brans Dicke Theory." It is noted that while this transformation is applicable in higher dimensions, it cannot be performed in 2 dimensions, which is the context of the user's work.

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I have an action of the form
[tex] \int \alpha \sqrt{g} R[/tex]
where [itex]\alpha[/itex] is a field.
I want to do some kind of coordinate transformation, so that this term in the action becomes
[tex] \int \sqrt{g}R + \sqrt{g}(...)[/tex]
where (...) consists of terms containing \alpha.

So basically, I want to remove [itex]\alpha[/itex] from the coefficient of R and move it to other terms in the lagrangian. Now, I know that this can be done! (I remember this from long ago), but for heaven's sake can't figure out how!

Can anyone tell me? Just a reference would be fine.
 
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You probably want a field redefinition, not a coordinate transformation. I'd look up "Jordan frame" and "Einstein Frame" in "Brans Dicke Theory" (which contains an action like the one you write).
 
Sam Gralla said:
You probably want a field redefinition, not a coordinate transformation. I'd look up "Jordan frame" and "Einstein Frame" in "Brans Dicke Theory" (which contains an action like the one you write).

Yes. That's exactly what I wanted. Thanks a lot Sam. However, it turns out that this process cannot be done in 2 dimensions which is what I am working in.

Anyway thanks a lot for your help.
 

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