Replacing Car Batteries with Capacitors for EV - Answers Here!

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of replacing car batteries with capacitors in electric vehicles (EVs). Participants explore the potential advantages and challenges of using capacitors, particularly supercapacitors, in terms of energy storage, charging speed, and operational efficiency. The conversation includes technical inquiries, personal experiences, and theoretical considerations related to energy transformation and storage in EV applications.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the claim that their design generates energy continuously while in motion, suggesting a need for clarification on energy transformation principles.
  • Another participant highlights the high cost of supercapacitors compared to lead-acid batteries, raising concerns about economic feasibility.
  • Some participants emphasize the fundamental differences between capacitors and batteries in terms of energy storage capacity and discharge characteristics.
  • A participant shares experiences from a previous project involving hybrid vehicles, noting potential risks associated with lithium batteries and the uncertain future of supercapacitors.
  • There are discussions about the importance of minimizing load and resistance in the design to enhance energy efficiency and performance.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the claims of energy generation from forward motion, suggesting that such ideas are often associated with misconceptions about perpetual motion.
  • Another participant acknowledges the innovative spirit of the inquiry but cautions about the challenges and failures that may arise from such experimental approaches.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the feasibility of using capacitors in place of batteries for EVs. There are competing views regarding the practicality, efficiency, and theoretical underpinnings of the proposed energy generation and storage methods.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express concerns about the assumptions underlying the claims of continuous energy generation and the implications of using capacitors versus batteries. The discussion reflects a range of technical knowledge and experience levels among participants, which may influence the perspectives shared.

  • #31
trentr said:
take care and read a book:)

what books do you suggest?
 
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  • #32
Ok. Fine. Let's start over. Exactly what is it you are trying to do? Don't sidetrack this thing again by saying that something would 'look cool' which has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.
 
  • #33
Like uart said, you haven't specified the amount of power needed to operate or the current in one hour that you need in order to find the amount of charge before going to calculate the capacitance for the capacitor that you need. Voltage is one piece of the puzzle to find out the capacitor that you need.

When you know the current in one hour, you just do this equation to find the charge which is:
Q = I * t

Q = charge in coulombs
I = current in amperes
t = 3600 seconds or 1 hour

Then to find the capacitance you use this formula:

C = \frac{Q}{V}

C = capacitance which is measured in farad (F)
Q = charge in coulombs (C)
V = voltage
 
  • #34
trentr said:
lol naw it aint but the drive shaft isn't a bad idea. If you were to transform the entire drive shaft to a low rpm PMA that could recover some good energy with little resistance. But I don't know if like 10 pma assemblies would create enough to do anything. But would prolly look hella cool, kinda like some back to the future **** lol. Has that been tried? I think the load would rbring the vehicle to a winding stop if it even moved at all.

Generator creates resistance when it generates energy.

I'm not too clear on your idea but from what I've read, it's not going to work. Try it if you think it is going to work. If you fail, you'll still learn something new.
 
  • #35
The March 12, 2009 issue of Nature has an article about lithium batteries which purportedly achieve ultrahigh charge and discharge rates (comparable to those of supercapacitors, according to the authors). They use LiFePO4.
 

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