Resolving bodies at large distances

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a 6.5m diameter telescope and its ability to resolve individual stars at various wavelengths. The context includes considerations of stellar densities similar to the Solar neighborhood and the implications of angular resolution calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the meaning of "resolving individual stars" and question whether it refers to distinguishing stars as points of light or resolving them into disks. There is discussion about calculating average star separations and how these relate to the telescope's angular resolution.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the problem's wording and intent. Some have offered interpretations of what is meant by resolving stars and how to approach the calculations, but there is no consensus on the exact requirements of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion over the terms "stellar densities" and "Solar neighborhood," indicating that the problem may lack clarity. There is an emphasis on understanding the relevant sizes for resolution, whether it be the diameter of stars or the average distance between them.

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Homework Statement


If a 6.5m diameter telescope operates at wavelengths between 600nm to 2800nm, and for stellar densities similar to the Solar neighbourhood, what is the range of distances this telescope can resolve individual stars?

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My attempts so far have led to calculating the angular resolutions of the telescope at 600nm and 2800nm:

1.12*10^-7 rads && 5.25*10^-7 rads, respectively.

How do I go forward from here? I don't understand how to incorporate the local Solar density into this problem?
 
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The problem isn't clear to me either. You should ask for clarification. What does it mean to "resolve individual stars"? Individual stars are points of light and not resolved into disks in even the largest telescopes. Are you supposed to calculate an average separation of stars in the solar neighborhood and see how far away you can resolve that separation? It is a very poorly worded question, in my opinion.
 
phyzguy said:
The problem isn't clear to me either. You should ask for clarification. What does it mean to "resolve individual stars"? Individual stars are points of light and not resolved into disks in even the largest telescopes. Are you supposed to calculate an average separation of stars in the solar neighborhood and see how far away you can resolve that separation? It is a very poorly worded question, in my opinion.
Right?!

I had it in my head that what if it actually means, how far can a body of similar size to the Sun be resolved at these wavelengths by the 6.5m telescope.

My problem is "the stellar densities", and Solar neighbour hood, wording.

If I have the angular resolutions at the respective wavelengths, surely all I need is the size of the body I'm trying to resolve and then I can work out the maximum distance it can be to be resolved?
 
mjda said:
If I have the angular resolutions at the respective wavelengths, surely all I need is the size of the body I'm trying to resolve and then I can work out the maximum distance it can be to be resolved?

Yes. But what is the problem asking? Is it asking you to resolve individual stars into disks? In this case the relevant size is the diameter of the star. Or is it asking you to separate nearby stars? In this case the average distance between stars is the relevant size. These are very different length scales. There is no way to know what is being asked without asking for clarification.
 
I read the question to refer to the telescope's ability to resolve two stars distinctly. Given some average separation between stars, at some distance, their angular separation will be too small for the telescope to resolve as separate stars because of the diffraction limit.
 

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