Revolutions frequency after collision

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The problem involves a bar that is free to rotate about a vertical axle, which is struck by two bullets simultaneously. The objective is to determine the revolutions frequency of the bar after an inelastic collision with the bullets.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the revolutions frequency based on angular momentum and inertia, presenting their calculations for confirmation. Other participants question the methods used and confirm the results without detailing the methods.

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The discussion has seen some validation of the original poster's calculations, with participants expressing gratitude for the confirmation. However, the exact methods used to arrive at the results remain unclear, as not all steps were provided.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations and seeks confirmation, indicating a lack of confidence in their approach. There is also a mention of the context being related to a university test.

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Homework Statement


A bar, whose mass is 10kg, is 3 cm long and is free to rotate about a vertical axle through its centre.
At the beginning, the bar is vertically quiet. Then, the two extremities are hit at the same time by two bullets, one by the left and the other by the right. Their masses are 5 kg each and their velocity is 62.8 m/s.
In the inelastic collision, the bullets become ... (I don't know the exact word for "loyal", "several", "they are moving exactly like the bar", "they are embedded into the bar") each respectly to an extremity.

2. What I need:
I'd like to know the revolutions frequency of the bar after the collision.

3. Attempts to the solution
My result is 500 revolutions per second. I have some doubts, so I ask you for a confirm.

Thank you very very much
Sorry for my bad english and for my horrible diagram
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Your result looks fine. I can't comment on your method of finding that result, since you didn't provide it.
 
I have tried to solve it. Can you confirm? Is it right?

r=radius vector, m=mass, v=velocity

[itex]Lp=[/itex]angular momentum of a bullet [itex]= rmv= 0.015 *5*62.8=4.71*10^-2[/itex]

[itex]A=[/itex]angular momentum of 2 bullets [itex]=2*Lp=9.42 \frac{m^2 * kg} {s}[/itex]Inertia bar = [itex]\frac {1}{12}*M*length^2=\frac {1}{12}*10*(3*10^-2)^2=7.5*10^-4[/itex]

Inertia 1 bullet = [itex]mr^2=5*(1.5*10^-2)^2=1.125*10^-3[/itex]

inertia 2 bullets = 2 *( Inertia 1 bullet) = [itex]2.25*10^3[/itex]

[itex]I[/itex]=Sum of inertia = Inertia Bar + Inertia bullets = [itex]7.5+10^-4+2.25*10^-3=3*10^-3[/itex]
[itex]A=Iw[/itex]

[itex]9,42 = 3*10^-3 w[/itex] --> [itex]w=3410[/itex]

frequency=[itex]\frac {w}{2\pi}=500 hz[/itex]
 
Yes, that is correct. Nicely done.
 
Thank you very very much. It was my university test today. I am so grateful :D :D
 

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