Rewriting an Equation with Polar Substitutions

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The discussion revolves around rewriting an equation using polar substitutions, specifically transforming the equation x² + y² + 5x = 0 with the substitutions x = r cos(θ) and y = r sin(θ). The subject area is primarily focused on polar coordinates and algebraic manipulation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial step of substituting the polar expressions into the equation. There are varying opinions on whether to factor the resulting expression and how necessary that step is. Some suggest that simplifications can be made due to the squared terms, while others question the need for further factoring unless explicitly instructed.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing different perspectives on the approach to take after substitution. Some have provided guidance on factoring and recognizing identities related to polar coordinates, while others are exploring the implications of the transformations without reaching a consensus on the necessity of factoring.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of potential missing instructions regarding what to do after the transformation, indicating that the original poster may not have provided complete context for the problem.

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Homework Statement


Rewrite the given equation using the substitutions x=rcos@ and y=rsin@

THETA EQUAL @
x2 + y2 +5x =0


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you plug in the subsititutions first. Then you factor it?
 
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Well, just plug it in?
 
Plug them in, then factor out r2, and after that, factor r, and you will come up with 2 solutions for r.

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I see nothing in the OPs first message that states anything more than transforming the original equation needs to be done. Make the given substitution: you will be able to make some simplification because of the squared terms, even factor, but unless there are instructions that weren't posted, I wouldn't bother factoring (were you asked to do something after you transform the equation?)
 
I ended up just factoring it. It was far easier than i thought it would be. I just wanted to make sure of how i was doing it.
 
Factoring would be best here because it helps you to notice that the equation can be simplified because of the [tex]sin^2\theta+cos^2\theta=1[/tex]
 
Well, if you got [itex]r^2 + 5 r \cos\theta[/itex] you did it correctly :)

When you get more "into" polar coordinates, you will start to notice immediately that x2 + y2 is actually precisely r2, where r is defined as the distance [itex]\sqrt{x^2 + y^2}[/itex] from the point (x, y) to the origin. But if you don't see that right away, you can just plug in the formula and use the identity posted by Mentallic (which you should remember for life anyway).
 

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