Solving a Second Order ODE with V(t) = -Q/C

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The discussion focuses on solving a second-order ordinary differential equation (ODE) where the voltage V(t) is defined as V(t) = -Q/C, with L = 8R²C. The system is maintained in a steady state until t=0, at which point V(t) is set to 0. Initial conditions are specified as q=Q and dq/dt=−Q/CR. The participants clarify that the solution for q should include a constant term Q, but due to the steady state condition, a particular integral is not necessary, leading to confusion regarding the solution's form.

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Question and part 1 as above. The second part involves solving this equation where L = 8R^2 C. The system is kept in steady state by maintaining V(t) = -Q/C (constant). V(t) is then set to 0 at t=0.

It also says "Note that V(t)=0 for t>0 and that appropriate initial conditions
at (or just after) t=0 are that q=Q and dq/dt= −Q/CR."

The Attempt at a Solution



The first part is just very tedious math, but I managed to get it.

The second part is just a second order ODE, but I am unable to get the answer which is

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Given the differential equation above, and substituting V = -Q/C, dV/dt = 0, the right hand side becomes a constant. This means that there is a particular integral (q = k = Q), but the answer does not have the form q = Q +... !

I did it a few times but keep getting back to the same problem. However, if I do attempt a solution that omits the particular integral, I do get the answer needed. Why is this the case?
 
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Hi bigevil! :smile:

Yes, the given solution for q is a "general" solution for the original equation, and should have a Q added to it, but
bigevil said:
The system is kept in steady state by maintaining V(t) = -Q/C (constant). V(t) is then set to 0 at t=0.

It also says "Note that V(t)=0 for t>0 and that appropriate initial conditions
at (or just after) t=0 are that q=Q and dq/dt= −Q/CR."

I don't completely understand what's going on here, but it seems to be changing the original RHS to zero (instead of Q/LC), so no particular solution is needed …

(perhaps they're charging the capacitor using the battery until t = 0, and then turning the battery off?)

does that make any sense? :redface:
 
Yes, I think so, tim, thanks =)
 

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