Rocket accelerating thru a dust cloud

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The discussion focuses on calculating the acceleration of a rocket moving through a dust cloud, characterized by mass M, cross-sectional area A, and dust density P. The rocket ejects material at a rate equal to the rate it assimilates dust particles, with the ejection speed relative to the rocket being V_g. The key equation derived is a = (V - V_g)APV / M, which relates the rocket's acceleration to its speed V and the parameters of the dust cloud.

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hi...
a rocket of mass M is flying through a dust cloud the cloud has a density of P. the rocket's cross section is A. every dusticle the rocket colides with becomes permenantly attached.
the rocket is ejecting material (as a propellant) at the same rate that it assimilates it. the speed of the ejection relative to the rocket is
V_g
find the rockets acceleration as a function of its speed V


Homework Equations


<br /> F = M{{dv} \over {dt}} + (u - v){{dm} \over {dt}}<br /> <br />


The Attempt at a Solution


i'v found dm, i think:
<br /> dm = APdx = APVdt<br /> <br />

so presumably, to find
the acceleration i did this:
<br /> \eqalign<br /> &amp; dV = adt - V_0 = V_1 - V_0 \cr <br />
&amp; - V_0 dm = - V_g dm + MV_1 \cr
but now I am totally stuck...
any help? please?
 
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Gregie666 said:
hi...
a rocket of mass M is flying through a dust cloud the cloud has a density of P. the rocket's cross section is A. every dusticle the rocket colides with becomes permenantly attached.
the rocket is ejecting material (as a propellant) at the same rate that it assimilates it. the speed of the ejection relative to the rocket is
V_g
find the rockets acceleration as a function of its speed V


Homework Equations


<br /> F = M{{dv} \over {dt}} + (u - v){{dm} \over {dt}}<br /> <br />


The Attempt at a Solution


i'v found dm, i think:
<br /> dm = APdx = APVdt<br /> <br />

so presumably, to find
the acceleration i did this:
<br /> \eqalign<br /> &amp; dV = adt - V_0 = V_1 - V_0 \cr <br />
&amp; - V_0 dm = - V_g dm + MV_1 \cr
but now I am totally stuck...
any help? please?

This does not look right

<br /> dV = adt - V_0 = V_1 - V_0 \cr <br />

The definition of acceleration is just a = dV/dt

Since the mass of the rocket is not changing, you can treat the collision//expulsion of a mass dm using conservation of momentum. It does not matter that the gas expelled is not the same piece of matter as the dm that is captured. Think of a head-on collision between two objects of mass M and dm with M moving at an initial velocity V and dm at rest. The final velocity of dm is known in terms of V and the relative exhaust velocity. Solve for the final velocity of M and find the rate of change of velocity dV/dt. This will look a lot like your force equation, but I don't think you have that equation quite right. Maybe it's just a matter of interpretation. What force are you representing by that equation?
 
ok.. i think you are right. so using conservation of momentum i can approach it like this:
in an infinitesimally small ammonut of time, the following equation holds true:

VM = (V + dV)M + (V - V_g )dm
VM = (V + dV)M + (V - V_g )APdx
VM = VM + Mdv + (V - V_g )APdx
{{(V - V_g )APdx} \over {dt}} = M{{dv} \over {dt}}
{{(V - V_g )APV} \over M} = a

p.s. how do i make a newline in tex?? \newline doesn't seem to work
 
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