Rodent Population as a differential equation.

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The discussion revolves around a differential equation modeling the population growth of rodents, specifically described by the equation dP/dt = kP^2. The original poster presents initial conditions and seeks to determine the time required for the population to reach 105 rodents.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to find the constant k and integrates the differential equation but encounters issues with their integration approach. Some participants question the method of integration used, suggesting that the variable p should not be treated as a constant during integration.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's attempts, providing feedback on the integration method and discussing the implications of treating variables correctly in the context of differential equations. There is no explicit consensus yet, as the discussion is ongoing and multiple interpretations are being explored.

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There is a reference to a screenshot of the problem statement that some participants could not initially access, which may have impacted the clarity of the discussion. Additionally, the original poster's method of solving for the constant C and subsequent calculations are under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement


https://www.physicsforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=65556&stc=1&d=1389570667

For those who can not see the screen shot here is the question...
Suppose the population P of rodents satisfies the diff eq dP/dt = kP^2.
Initially there are P(0) = 2 rodents, and their number is increasing at the rate of dP/dt = 1 rodent per month when P = 10. How long does it take for the population to reach 105 rodents.

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The Attempt at a Solution



First I found k by substituting in 10 for p and 1 for dp/dt.
1 = k * 10^2
k = 1/100

Then to solve the differential equation I integrated both sides with respect to t.

∫dp/dt * dt = ∫0.01 * p^2 dt
p = 0.01p^2 * t + C

I solved for C and found C = 2.

Solving for t gives
t = 100(p - 2) / p^2

I then plunged in 105 for p and the answer was wrong.
 
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It would be helpful to see the question.
 
At the moment the question has not been posted or is not visible to me.
 
I can see the screen shot of the question uploaded. I will rewrite the question and update the original post.
 
cp255 said:
I can see the screen shot of the question uploaded. I will rewrite the question and update the original post.

Integrating ∫0.01 * p^2 dt to get 0.01p^2*t+C is incorrect. That's assuming p is a constant. You need to separate the ODE first.
 
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cp255 said:

Homework Statement


https://www.physicsforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=65556&stc=1&d=1389570667

For those who can not see the screen shot here is the question...
Suppose the population P of rodents satisfies the diff eq dP/dt = kP^2.
Initially there are P(0) = 2 rodents, and their number is increasing at the rate of dP/dt = 1 rodent per month when P = 10. How long does it take for the population to reach 105 rodents.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



First I found k by substituting in 10 for p and 1 for dp/dt.
1 = k * 10^2
k = 1/100

Then to solve the differential equation I integrated both sides with respect to t.

∫dp/dt * dt = ∫0.01 * p^2 dt
p = 0.01p^2 * t + C
This is incorrect. You are treating p, on the right, as if it were a constant but it is a function of t.
Instead, write it as \int \frac{dp}{p^2}dp= \int .01dt
-\frac{1}{p}= .01t+ C
p(t)= -\frac{1}{.01t+ C}
p(0)= -\frac{1}{C}= 2

I solved for C and found C = 2.

Solving for t gives
t = 100(p - 2) / p^2

I then plunged in 105 for p and the answer was wrong.
 

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