Roller Coaster Friction Problem

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a roller coaster navigating a hill and a loop, with a focus on the effects of friction on its ability to complete the loop. The context includes concepts from mechanics and energy conservation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conservation of energy and the impact of friction on the roller coaster's motion. There are inquiries about the relevant equations and methods to analyze the situation, particularly regarding the work-energy principle and the forces involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing insights into energy calculations and the mechanics of the loop. However, there is no consensus on the specific equations to use or the complete analysis of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the effects of friction and the height of the loop in relation to the potential energy at the starting point. There is an acknowledgment of the need to calculate energy losses due to friction over a specified distance.

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Homework Statement




A roller coaster begins with a 90m hill followed by a 40m diameter loop. Unfortunately, the coaster hits a 20m long rough patch between the bottom of the hill and the loop. If the friction on the rough patch is .8, then can a roller coaster make it through the loop?


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I found that the centripetal acceleration is 9G's and that the weight a person would feel would be 10G's, but I don't know the equation I would use and how to factor in friction.
 
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The concept of the problem is about conservation of energy.
Taking ground as zero reference of PE.
PE at 90m surely can make a loop of height 90m.
You have to calculate if the extra energy going for 40m loop is exceeding the energy use by frictional force for the given distance.
 
Do you know the equation?
 
That's quite a coaster you got there with 10 g's at the bottom of the loop...without friction. Are you familiar with work-energy methods and minimum speed required at the top of the loop to make it through the loop?
 
Afraid not
 

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