Romney Expanding the Battleground

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The discussion centers around the implications of Romney's campaign activities in Pennsylvania during the presidential election season. Participants explore the motivations behind his campaign strategy, the potential impact on voter dynamics, and the broader electoral significance of Pennsylvania as a battleground state.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that Romney's campaign in Pennsylvania may be a strategic move to create the appearance of competitiveness in the state, rather than a genuine belief that it is winnable.
  • Others argue that Romney's actions could be a tactic to draw resources away from Obama in Ohio, indicating a possible political game at play.
  • A participant expresses skepticism about Pennsylvania's viability for Republicans, referencing past attempts to win the state and suggesting that if Obama were to lose Pennsylvania, it would indicate broader electoral issues for him.
  • Another participant expresses frustration with the motivations of both candidates, questioning the authenticity of their campaigns and suggesting that voting for either may not be meaningful.
  • Some participants share links to polling data, with one questioning the reliability of the methodology used in a particular poll, suggesting it may favor Republican outcomes based on past election dynamics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the effectiveness or sincerity of Romney's campaign efforts in Pennsylvania. Multiple competing views remain regarding the strategic implications and the potential outcomes of the election in the state.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the motivations behind campaign strategies and the interpretation of polling data. The discussion reflects varying perspectives on the political landscape in Pennsylvania without definitive conclusions.

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Romney Expanding the "Battleground"

Presidential campaigning had been completely and eerily absent in Pennsylvania this season, but Romney is changing that. Campaign advertisements started yesterday (that I noticed) and he'll be campaigning in Philadelphia on Sunday. Obama has responded by also ordering TV time in PA.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/01/romney-tries-to-put-pa-in-play/
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/02/u...campaign-makes-push-in-pennsylvania.html?_r=0

What is not clear, of course, is if Romney is campaigning in PA because he thinks PA is in play or if he just wants to give the appearance that he thinks PA is in play, trying to wag the dog to stir-up national momentum.
 
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With knowing the details on the issues considered decisive in Pa, there could be any number of political games ongoing. One thought: threaten Pa in order to pull Obama out of last minute campaigning in Ohio.
 


russ_watters said:
Presidential campaigning had been completely and eerily absent in Pennsylvania this season, but Romney is changing that. Campaign advertisements started yesterday (that I noticed) and he'll be campaigning in Philadelphia on Sunday. Obama has responded by also ordering TV time in PA.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/01/romney-tries-to-put-pa-in-play/
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/02/u...campaign-makes-push-in-pennsylvania.html?_r=0

What is not clear, of course, is if Romney is campaigning in PA because he thinks PA is in play or if he just wants to give the appearance that he thinks PA is in play, trying to wag the dog to stir-up national momentum.

The latter. McCain tried a similar gambit in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania is just ever-so-infinitesimally to the left of being a truly winnable state, and every election it seems as though the Republicans can't resist trying to flip it. It hasn't happened yet, and it's not about to. And frankly, if it's going badly enough for Obama to lose Pennsylvania, then he's already lost the election elsewhere. I see this as nothing more than a Rove-esque, campaign-in-California moment for Romney.
 


russ_watters said:
Presidential campaigning had been completely and eerily absent in Pennsylvania this season, but Romney is changing that. Campaign advertisements started yesterday (that I noticed) and he'll be campaigning in Philadelphia on Sunday. Obama has responded by also ordering TV time in PA.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/01/romney-tries-to-put-pa-in-play/
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/02/u...campaign-makes-push-in-pennsylvania.html?_r=0

What is not clear, of course, is if Romney is campaigning in PA because he thinks PA is in play or if he just wants to give the appearance that he thinks PA is in play, trying to wag the dog to stir-up national momentum.
Really. Who gives a **** why Romney or Obama is doing anything in their campaigns? Isn't it supposed to be about voting your conscience? Well, who knows what the heck Romney stands for other than some weird religious cult and the rich? And who knows what Obama might say and do other than? They're both tools, posers. Vote for either, waste your vote, degrade your freedom, endorse the status quo. Just my humble opinion.
 


I've no idea what color state PA is, but I suppose if it got one of the "faithful" to mention his name again on an Internet forum, it served some purpose :smile:
 


Gokul43201 said:

The polling firm that did that poll put out a press release explaining their "methodology". Pretty much they weigh their surveys according to a partisan makeup something similar to 2010. This in itself is terrible methodology because midterm elections are sort of the Republicans' specialty. I'd bet my right arm, quite literally, that Obama wins Pennsylvania.
 

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