Is America Shifting Right with Brownback's 2008 Bid?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the implications of Sam Brownback's 2008 presidential bid, exploring whether it signifies a broader shift in American politics towards the right, particularly within the Republican Party. Participants examine Brownback's social conservative positions, his influence on the political landscape, and the reactions to his candidacy from various political perspectives.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that Brownback's candidacy reflects a significant influence of the Christian right in American politics, with concerns about the implications of his social conservative policies.
  • Others argue that the political landscape may not be shifting rightward, citing examples of Democratic victories and suggesting a potential return to left-leaning policies.
  • Several comments highlight Brownback's controversial views on issues such as abortion and pornography, with some participants expressing disbelief at his statements.
  • Some participants acknowledge Brownback's involvement in humanitarian efforts, such as his advocacy for the Darfur conflict, while expressing mixed feelings about his overall political stance.
  • There are contrasting opinions on Brownback's chances of securing the Republican nomination, with some expressing skepticism about his appeal compared to other candidates like Giuliani.
  • Participants use varying descriptors for Brownback, ranging from "dirtbag" to "ultra-conservative religious nutjob," indicating strong negative sentiments among some contributors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion reveals multiple competing views regarding Brownback's candidacy and its implications for American politics. There is no consensus on whether the political shift is towards the right or left, and participants express a range of opinions on Brownback's character and policies.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific statements and actions by Brownback, but there are unresolved questions about the broader implications of his candidacy and the political climate. The discussion includes a mix of personal opinions and reactions to Brownback's policies without definitive conclusions.

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0rthodontist said:
So what happens if the boss decides he doesn't want to take the rap for something his employee wrote, and calls it a forgery (which it sort of seems like)? Or if there's a legal mechanism in place to prevent that, what happens when the employee decides he doesn't like his boss very much and deliberately says something unwise under his boss' name?
I had the reverse situation. I had a business-owner boss that used to send out letters over my signature. The problem was that the jerk was a blowhard, and had no concept of proper usage in English. He would use the word "subsequently" 20 times a day, when he needed the word "consequently" or "therefore". If you or I could express a thought in a few well-chosen words, he would drag it out to multiple paragraphs (with lots of indented index letters and numbers) with sesquipedilian words and even made-up words. He sent out letters over my signature that made me look like a moron. Before I took over the firearms/militaria division (and more than doubled the profitability of the company) I didn't have a problem, but after achieving success in that regard, he jumped in and tried to "personalize" my customer contacts, much to the consternation of customers with whom I had already established trusted relationships. When you are dealing with a collector who had spent the last 50 years accumulating a world-class collection of militaria and who likes you, the very last thing you need is for your boss to jump in with both feet and screw the deal.
 

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