Root-mean-square voltage of the waveform

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The discussion revolves around calculating the root-mean-square (RMS) voltage of a given waveform, which is described as repeating every 3 seconds. Participants express uncertainty about the calculation process and the underlying concepts related to RMS voltage.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants inquire about the formula for RMS voltage and discuss the concept of mean voltage. Some express confusion about integrating the waveform and how to handle areas that may cancel each other out.

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The discussion includes various attempts to calculate the RMS voltage, with participants sharing their results and questioning the correctness of their approaches. There is a mix of exploration and clarification, with some participants suggesting methods while others express frustration over not reaching a solution.

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Participants mention integrating areas of triangles within the waveform and the implications of a mean voltage of zero. The repeated nature of the waveform and the period of 3 seconds are also noted as important factors in the calculations.

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given the below graph of the waveform, what is the rootmeansquare voltage.

[PLAIN]http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5296/voltage.png

Please help, i have no idea how to do this. Note that the waveform repeats itself every 3 seconds. thank you
 
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What's the formula for RMS voltage? Or if you don't know the formula, what do you know about how, in general, one calculates an RMS voltage?
 
i think its like the average voltage. so i would integrate to get the areas of those triangles and divide the period..which is 3 seconds, but i would get zero since the triangles negate themselves. but 0 is not the correct answer.

i have no idea honestly, an answer will suffice though, thanks.
 
Mugged said:
i have no idea honestly, an answer will suffice though, thanks.
No it will not, because you won't learn anything if you don't work through the problem yourself.

The formula for root mean square voltage is
[tex]V_\text{RMS} = \sqrt{\int (V - \bar{V})^2 \mathrm{d}t}[/tex]
It's just like standard deviation, except for a continuous signal: you subtract the mean voltage, square it, integrate, and take the square root. Try that and see what you get.
 
ok, but what exactly is the mean voltage.

i got 2.3 volts, using mean voltage = 2..but that's not correct
 
mugged said:
ok, but what exactly is the mean voltage.
mugged said:
i think its like the average voltage. So i would integrate to get the areas of those triangles and divide the period..which is 3 seconds, but i would get zero since the triangles negate themselves.
. . .
 
with mean voltage = 0 i come up with 3.26599 volts when i integrate the first and second triangles separately, add those two values, and root them using your formula. this is also wrong - dude can you just show me please
 
oh wait - just realized I left out a part of the formula, sorry about that. This should be correct.
[tex]V_\text{RMS} = \sqrt{\frac{1}{\Delta t}\int_t^{t+\Delta t} (V - \bar{V})^2 \mathrm{d}t}[/tex]
 
ok..i got it lol
 

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