Roots of $f(x)$ Quadratic Equation: $1x^2+2x+3=0$

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the roots of the quadratic equation \(f(1)x^2 + 2f(2)x + 3f(3) = 0\) under the condition that \(f(x)\) is a continuous function that assumes only rational values, specifically given that \(f(2010) = 1\). The focus includes theoretical implications of continuity and rationality on the nature of the function \(f(x)\).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that if \(f(x)\) is continuous and only takes rational values, then \(f(x)\) must be a constant function.
  • Others argue that the quadratic equation \(x^2 + 2x + 3 = 0\) has no real roots, as it can be rewritten to show that \((x+1)^2 + 2 > 0\) for all \(x \in \mathbb{R}\).
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding the assertion that continuity and rationality imply that \(f(x)\) is constant, seeking clarification on this reasoning.
  • Another participant elaborates on the intermediate value principle, stating that if \(f(x)\) takes on all values between \(f(a)\) and \(f(b)\) for distinct reals \(a\) and \(b\), it leads to a contradiction if \(f(x)\) is restricted to rational values.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the conclusion that the quadratic equation has no real roots. However, there is disagreement and confusion regarding the implications of continuity and rationality on the nature of the function \(f(x)\), with no consensus reached on this point.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of continuous functions and their values, as well as the implications of the intermediate value theorem, which may not be fully resolved within the context of the claims made.

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if $f(x)$ be a continuous and assumes only rational values so that $ f(2010) =1. $ then roots of

the equation $f(1)x^2 + 2f(2)x + 3f(3) =0$ are
 
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jacks said:
if $f(x)$ be a continuous and assumes only rational values so that $ f(2010) =1. $ then roots of

the equation $f(1)x^2 + 2f(2)x + 3f(3) =0$ are


Continuous and rational implies that \(f(x)\) is a constant.

CB
 
means $x^2+2x+3=0\Leftrightarrow (x+1)^2+2>0\forall x\in \mathbb{R}$

Means no real Roots.

but I did not understand the line if $f(x)$ is Conti. and assume only rational values .then it must be Constant

Thanks
 
jacks said:
means $x^2+2x+3=0\Leftrightarrow (x+1)^2+2>0\forall x\in \mathbb{R}$

Means no real Roots.

but I did not understand the line if $f(x)$ is Conti. and assume only rational values .then it must be Constant

Thanks

If \(f(x)\) is continuous it satisfies the intermediate value principle, that is \(f(x)\) takes on all values between \(f(a)\) and \(f(b)\) for any distinct reals \(a\) and \(b\).

We are told that \(f(a)\) and \(f(b)\) are rational, and if they are not equal there is an irrational \(\rho\) between them and a \(c \in (a,b)\) such that \(f(c)=\rho\) which contradicts \(f(x)\) only taking rational values, so for any two real \(a, b\) \(f(a)=f(b)\) hence \(f(x)\) is a constant.

CB
 

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