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Sofia is researching the existence of dark matter in elliptical galaxies by comparing theoretical and measured rotation curves of a rotating gas disk. She is using the Jaffe profile for mass distribution but is uncertain about plotting the predicted rotation curve without knowing the total mass and scale radius. The discussion highlights that elliptical galaxies are pressure-supported, making traditional rotation curves less applicable compared to spiral galaxies. An example provided is NGC 5018, which contains a rotating gas disk but is interacting with another galaxy, complicating measurements. For further reference, the textbook "Galactic Dynamics" by Binney & Tremaine is recommended for understanding these concepts.
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rotation curve of a gas disk in an elliptical galaxy
Hello, I'm Sofia and new here! I'm working on a project in which I'm trying to show that dark matter exists. It's about an elliptical galaxy with a rotating gas disk.

What I'm doing is comparing the theoretical calculation of the rotation curve with the actual measured rotation curve. It should be that the gas disc is actually rotating faster than predicted and therefore there is more mass there than you can see. I have already found a formula for the rotation curve, but I'm not sure if it makes sense.

I used the Jaffe profile for the mass distribution. I also don't know how it is possible to plot this predicted rotation curve without knowing the total mass and the scale radius "a". I would be very happy if someone could help me with this!
 
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Can we back up a bit? Ellipticals are pressure-supported, so a "rotation curve" in the sense of spirals really doesn't exist. When you describe a "rotating gas disk" it sounds like you are talking about spirals with the elliptical in the role of the bulge.

Can you give an example or two of such galaxies?
 
Oh, and one other thing: ellipticals are thought to have originated through mergers. It is far from clear how much, if any, of the dark matter component remains.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Can we back up a bit? Ellipticals are pressure-supported, so a "rotation curve" in the sense of spirals really doesn't exist. When you describe a "rotating gas disk" it sounds like you are talking about spirals with the elliptical in the role of the bulge.

Can you give an example or two of such galaxies?
For example the elliptical galaxy NGC 5018 contains a rotating gas disk.
 
Thanks.

5018 is interacting with 5022, so you need to ensure that you are measuring what you think you are. I looked it up, and 5018 is quite the oddball. It's UV-poor, which implies little to no star formation, yet there have been three SNe seen in it.

You need to know the mass to predict the rotation curve. What you can do is look at the stars and the gas and show that that underpredicts the velocity. which would then allow you to invert the process and trace out the DM profile.
 
Sofia Piol said:
TL;DR Summary: rotation curve of a gas disk in an elliptical galaxy

Hello, I'm Sofia and new here! I'm working on a project in which I'm trying to show that dark matter exists. It's about an elliptical galaxy with a rotating gas disk.

What I'm doing is comparing the theoretical calculation of the rotation curve with the actual measured rotation curve. It should be that the gas disc is actually rotating faster than predicted and therefore there is more mass there than you can see. I have already found a formula for the rotation curve, but I'm not sure if it makes sense.

I used the Jaffe profile for the mass distribution. I also don't know how it is possible to plot this predicted rotation curve without knowing the total mass and the scale radius "a". I would be very happy if someone could help me with this!
Is there a reason not to use the much easier example of a spiral galaxy?

Also, if you are looking for a reference to cite, rather than just some people on the Internet, the go-to textbook for this topic is Galactic Dynamics by Binney & Tremaine, which is currently in its second edition. The hard copy is pricey at a bit more than $100 USD (although you could get a copy for free from many college libraries or via interlibrary loan), but the e-textbook version is a lot cheaper.
 
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