Rotational Inertia of Irregular Disk

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the rotational inertia of an irregularly shaped plastic plate with uniform thickness and density, which is rotated around an axle through point O. A circular disk is attached to the plate, and the setup includes a force applied tangentially to the disk to induce rotation. The discussion centers on the relationship between the rotational inertia of the disk and the plate.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss calculating the angular acceleration and the torque applied to the disk. There are attempts to relate the rotational inertia of the disk to that of the plate, with some questioning how to derive the total rotational inertia given the irregular shape of the plate.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to relate the total rotational inertia to the individual components of the system. However, there is still uncertainty regarding the implications of the plate's irregular shape on the calculations, and multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of calculating the total rotational inertia due to the uneven radius of the plate, which may affect the approach to finding the solution.

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Homework Statement



an irregularly shaped plastic plate with uniform thickness and density (mass per unit volume) is to be rotated around an axle that is perpendicular to the plate face and through point O. The rotational inertia of the plate about that axle is measured with the following method. A circular disk of mass 0.500 kg and radius 2.00 cm is glued to the plate, with its center aligned with point O (Fig. 10-42b). A string is wrapped around the edge of the disk the way a string is wrapped around a top. Then the string is pulled for 5.00 s. As a result, the disk and plate are rotated by a constant force of 0.400 N that is applied by the string tangentially to the edge of the disk. The resulting angular speed is 114 rad/s. What is the rotational inertia of the plate about the axle?

Homework Equations



alpha = omega/t
torque = I(alpha)
torque = r(F)

The Attempt at a Solution



I searched the forums and found a year old solution, but it still wasn't detailed enough for me to get the right answer. I started by finding alpha, which was 22.8 rad/s^2. From there, I don't know how to get the I value of the plate, although I can find I value for the disk using

T = rF
= 0.02(0.4)
= 0.008 Nm

T = I(alpha)
I = 0.008/22.8
= 0.0035088

Then I get stuck and don't know how to relate the disk and plate together to find the I for the plate.
 
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Hi Kyle8624! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(have an alpha: α and an omega: ω and a tau: τ and try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)

Itotal = Idisc + Iplate :smile:
 
as for the question, I think I calculated the I for the disk, but I don't know how to get the total rotational inertia.
 
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Hi Kyle8624! :smile:

(just got up :zzz: …)
Kyle8624 said:
as for the question, I think I calculated the I for the disk, but I don't know how to get the total rotational inertia.

You get Itotal from τ/α, and then you get Iplate from Itotal = Idisc + Iplate
 
hi again : D

thanks for all of the help so far, but I think I'm missing some concept here. How do you get Itotal if the radius of the plate is uneven.
 
You get Itotal from τ/α.
 

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