Rotational Kinematics of a Particle

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The discussion revolves around the rotational kinematics of a particle in a rigid body that starts from rest and rotates about a fixed axis with a constant angular acceleration. Participants are exploring expressions for radial and tangential acceleration in terms of angular acceleration, distance from the axis, and time.

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  • Participants discuss the expressions for radial and tangential acceleration, questioning the use of trigonometric functions to relate these components to the resultant acceleration. There is exploration of the geometry involved in the problem, particularly regarding the angles and the relationships between the different types of acceleration.

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Several participants are actively engaging with the problem, attempting to clarify their understanding of the relationships between the components of acceleration. Some have provided alternative approaches to using trigonometric functions, while others are questioning the validity of their previous methods. There is a sense of progress as participants refine their reasoning and explore different interpretations of the problem.

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A rigid body, starting at rest, rotates about a fixed axis with a constant angular acceleration α. Consider a particle a distance r from the axis. Express (a) the radial acceleration and (b) the tangential acceleration of this particle in terms of α, r and time t.
c) if the resultant acceleration of the particle at some instant makes an angle of 57.0 degrees with the tangential acceleration, through what total angle has the body rotated from t=0 to that instant.

i got radial acceleration = rω^2 = (α^2)(t^2)r
tangential acceleration = αr

for c i made a triangle and got cos(57deg) = cos(.99rad) = (α^2)(t^2)r/αr = αt^2

so i plugged it into the kinematics formula
theta = (1/2)αt^2
theta = (1/2)cos(.99rad)
theta = .27 radians
but that is incorrect
 
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Destrio said:
for c i made a triangle and got cos(57deg) = cos(.99rad) = (α^2)(t^2)r/αr = αt^2
Why cosine? (And why change to radians?)
 
will making a triangle give me any information?
doing the same thing with tan and sin don't give me good answers

is the resultant acceleration = sqrt([(α^2)(t^2)r]^2 + [αr]^2)
should I be making a triangle with that?

thanks
 
Destrio said:
will making a triangle give me any information?
Sure.
doing the same thing with tan and sin don't give me good answers
Why not? One of them will. :wink:

is the resultant acceleration = sqrt([(α^2)(t^2)r]^2 + [αr]^2)
should I be making a triangle with that?
Yes, but that's the same triangle.

Just draw a right triangle with two sides being the two acceleration components.
 
tan(57deg) = (α^2)(t^2)r / αr
tan(57deg) = αt^2

theta = (1/2)αt^2
theta = (1/2)tan(57deg)
theta = .7699 rad

.7699rad * 360/2pi = 44.1 degrees

i don't know what I was thinking initially

but this makes more sense than what i was doing

thanks!
 

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