Rotational motion and finding the moment of inertia

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to rotational motion and the calculation of the moment of inertia for a rolling ball. The original poster attempts to apply conservation of energy principles to relate gravitational potential energy to kinetic energies, but encounters difficulties in determining the angular velocity needed for their calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the relationship between linear and angular velocity, questioning whether dividing linear velocity by the radius provides the correct angular velocity. There is also discussion about the implications of the ball rolling without slipping.

Discussion Status

Some participants have confirmed the calculations presented, while others have raised concerns regarding the moment of inertia values and their relation to the type of sphere being analyzed. There is an acknowledgment of potential discrepancies in the problem setup.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of the type of sphere (massive vs. hollow) in determining the correct moment of inertia formula, which may affect the validity of the results obtained.

Bolter
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Homework Statement
Find the moment of inertia
Relevant Equations
PE = mgh
KE tran = 1/2mv^2
Here is the problem that I am finding difficult to answer

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I had tried using conservation of energy to do this question

Where I know that the gravitational potential energy at the top of the slope equals to the sum of both the linear and rotational kinetic energy at the bottom of the slope.

Hence which is why I written down this, in where I then rearrange for I (moment of inertia). However upon doing this, I realize I have an unknown which is omega (angular velocity). How would I work out omega so I then find the moment of inertia of the ball?

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Thank you!
 
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You make use of the given that 'the ball rolled' (i.e. it did not slip) !
 
BvU said:
You make use of the given that 'the ball rolled' (i.e. it did not slip) !

So is finding angular velocity as simple as dividing the linear velocity by the ball's radius
I have done that to get my angular velocity to be 266.667 rad/s

Then plugging in all the values I need from before, I get I = 1.94 x 10^-5 kg/m^2 (3 sig figs)

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Is this alright?
 
Bolter said:
So is finding angular velocity as simple as dividing the linear velocity by the ball's radius
I have done that to get my angular velocity to be 266.667 rad/s

Then plugging in all the values I need from before, I get I = 1.94 x 10^-5 kg/m^2 (3 sig figs)

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Is this alright?
Looks right.
 
haruspex said:
Looks right.

Thanks for checking. Appreciate it!
 
I agree with your result. There is one snag, however:
For a massive sphere, ##I = {2\over 5}\,mr^2##; for a hollow sphere, ##I = {2\over 3}\,mr^2##. Most you can have is ##I = mr^2## (all the mass at distance ##r##, like for a ring).

Our ##I = 1.94 \ 10^{-5}## kg m2 would be 1.15 ##mr^2\qquad## o0)

I suspect an error by the exercise composer ...
 
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BvU said:
I agree with your result. There is one snag, however:
For a massive sphere, ##I = {2\over 5}\,mr^2##; for a hollow sphere, ##I = {2\over 3}\,mr^2##. Most you can have is ##I = mr^2## (all the mass at distance ##r##, like for a ring).

Our ##I = 1.94 \ 10^{-5}## kg m2 would be 1.15 ##mr^2\qquad## o0)

I suspect an error by the exercise composer ...

Ah yes that is true. I’ll definitely take note of that :)
 

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