Rotational motion with inertial forces

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The discussion revolves around a problem in rotational motion, specifically involving inertial forces such as centripetal and Coriolis forces acting on a block on an incline within a rotating frame of reference.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the effects of Coriolis and centripetal forces on a block situated on an incline in a rotating frame. Questions arise regarding the nature of motion in the rotating frame and the relevance of different forces acting on the block.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants examining the implications of the block's motion in a rotating frame. Some guidance has been provided regarding the forces at play, particularly the distinction between Coriolis and centripetal forces, but no consensus has been reached on the complete understanding of the scenario.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the requirement that the block does not slip relative to the rotating cylinder, which adds complexity to the analysis of forces involved.

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Homework Statement


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Centripetal acceleration$$=\omega ^2R$$
Coriolis acceleration $$=2v_{rot}\omega $$

The Attempt at a Solution


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Think of the mass as lying on an incline. The forces I know are parallel to the incline are $$mgsin(\alpha), \mu N$$
Forces I know are perpendicular to the incline are $$mgcos(\alpha),N$$. What I'm unsure about is how to deal with centripetal and coriolis forces. Could someone shed some light on this?
 
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Hi,
Does the block move in the rotating frame of reference ? So what about the Coriolis force ?
 
As seen by an observer relative to whom the cylinder is rotating, the block is stationary. That must mean that it is moving in the rotating frame of reference. So there must be a Coriolis force on the block, right? I don't think there is any centripetal force on the block in the rotating frame.
 
The exercise wants you t find ##\omega##s for the case the block does not slip !
 
Yes, does not slip relative to a stationary observer who sees the cylinder as rotating. I can see that.
 
More imporantly: "stays still wrt the rotating cylinder" !
 
Oh..so it is rotating... No coriolis force in that case, just centripetal and centrifugal (in the block's frame) then?
 
Yes. Some gravity and some friction too :smile:
 

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