Russia Launches First Flight of T-50 Stealth Fighter

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The discussion revolves around the first flight of Russia's T-50 stealth fighter, exploring its design similarities to American aircraft such as the F-22 and Northrop F-23. Participants examine historical influences, design choices, and potential performance characteristics, including maneuverability and avionics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note the T-50's resemblance to a combination of the F-22 and Northrop F-23, questioning the originality of its design.
  • One participant suggests that the T-50 may actually resemble a blend of the YF-23 and the Flanker, rather than the F-22.
  • Concerns are raised about the design choices made by T-50 engineers, particularly regarding the trade-off between stealth and maneuverability, as well as payload capacity.
  • There is speculation about whether the avionics of the T-50 will be able to match Western standards, with some suggesting it may come close due to advancements in technology.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the complexity of maintaining the T-50, indicating it could pose challenges.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the design influences of the T-50, with no consensus on whether it is more similar to the F-22 or other aircraft. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of its design choices on performance and maintenance.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference historical design influences and technological advancements without fully establishing timelines or specific design decisions. The discussion includes assumptions about the capabilities of the T-50's avionics and maintenance requirements.

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Russia's new First Flight of the T-50

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_russia_stealth_fighter

As someone who grew up in the time of the Soviet Block why am I surprised this looks like a combination of the F-22 and the Northrop F-23?
 
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FredGarvin said:
Russia's new First Flight of the T-50

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_russia_stealth_fighter

As someone who grew up in the time of the Soviet Block why am I surprised this looks like a combination of the F-22 and the Northrop F-23?

Hi, Fred.

I'm not quite sure as to who developed what planform when... Perhaps an historical review?

But really - external wing skin fasteners? Clearly delineable access panels? Instrumentation vanes?

Please...
 
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I am shocked that the Russians might copy an American design. SHOCKED. :smile:

http://4.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ku0oeaFZgA1qa8vado1_400.jpg
 
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FredGarvin said:
As someone who grew up in the time of the Soviet Block why am I surprised this looks like a combination of the F-22 and the Northrop F-23?

Looks more to me like offspring of YF-23 and Flanker than of F-22 and YF-23. But I don't know why should anyone be surprised, T-50 designers had to answer a lot of the same questions as Lockheed-Martin and Boeing designers. They've clearly sacrificed some of the stealthiness of US designs for better maneuverability and the bigger payload.

Question remains, whether avionics would be able to catch up to Western (it will probably come close, because it is no more dark art that it used to be 20 years ago), and whether the plane would be too complicated to maintain.
 

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