Using Lie Groups to Solve & Understand First Order ODE's

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This discussion centers on the application of Lie groups to solve first-order ordinary differential equations (ODEs). Participants emphasize the utility of symmetry analysis, particularly in reducing the order of ODEs and solving Euler-Homogeneous equations. Key resources mentioned include Peter Hydon's introductory book on symmetry analysis, Hans Stephani's detailed treatment, and the classic work by Bluman and Kumei. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the underlying principles of Lie groups and symmetry to effectively tackle differential equations.

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  • Understanding of first-order ordinary differential equations (ODEs)
  • Familiarity with Lie groups and symmetry analysis
  • Knowledge of Euler-Homogeneous equations
  • Basic concepts of differential equations and their solutions
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  • Study Peter Hydon's "Symmetry Analysis" for foundational concepts
  • Explore Hans Stephani's book for a more detailed understanding of symmetry in ODEs
  • Research Edgardo Cheb-Terrab's papers on symmetry analysis in Maple software
  • Learn about Noether's theorem and its connection to Lie groups in physics
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Mathematicians, physicists, and students interested in differential equations, particularly those looking to deepen their understanding of Lie groups and symmetry analysis in solving ODEs.

  • #31
bolbteppa said:
In other words it does indeed seem the general theorem can be confirmed by basic calculus. The wikipedia definition section for the exponential map seems to confirm this.

I find no demonstration of the general result by ordinary calculus in that article. I don't even find a precise statement of the result.

I think a result for matrix groups can be shown by ordinary calculus because matrix groups are special. In a matrix group x1 = T_x(x,y,\alpha)) is a linear function in x and y. Hence higher order partial derivatives of x_1 with respect to x or y vanish.

Problem 2.2 in Emmanuel p 17 uses the example of the group defined by
x_1 = (x^2 + \alpha x y)^{1/2}
y_1 = \frac{xy}{(x^2 + \alpha x y)^{1/2}}

It would interesting to discuss the specifics of expanding a function of (x_1,y_1) in Taylor series.

It won't do any good to rant at me about how the result is obvious from differential geometry. As I said, I'm perfectly willing to consider that the Taylor expansion in terms of U can only be defined and proven by using concepts from differential geometry. However, for the time being, I'm interested in what can be done with ordinary calculus. People with other interests should feel free to post about them.
 
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