Safety of a pebble bed reactor.

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The discussion centers on the safety features of pebble bed reactors compared to traditional light-water reactors (PWRs and BWRs) and other reactor types, including historical graphite-gas cooled reactors. Participants explore the inherent safety claims associated with pebble bed reactors, potential accident scenarios, and the implications of reactor design on safety during extreme events.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the assertion that pebble bed reactors are inherently safer than PWRs and BWRs, noting that both types have negative temperature coefficients.
  • One participant shares an anecdote from a nuclear reactor physics professor, suggesting that in the event of a loss-of-coolant accident (LOCA), a pebble bed reactor could maintain core integrity without immediate forced cooling, allowing for a more relaxed response to the situation.
  • Another participant humorously contrasts the relaxed approach to reactor accidents with a worst-case scenario involving a terrorist attack, questioning whether pebble bed reactors would offer safety advantages in such extreme situations.
  • It is noted that modern Western plants are designed with containment structures that have been tested against aircraft impacts, implying that safety considerations for extreme events are part of reactor design.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the safety of pebble bed reactors compared to other reactor types, with no consensus reached on the inherent safety advantages or disadvantages in various accident scenarios.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of safety assessments, including the dependence on reactor design specifics and the nature of potential accidents. There is an implicit recognition of the limitations in comparing different reactor types without considering these factors.

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I heard and read several times that a pebble bed reactor is "safer" than a PWR or a BWR. However, I fail to figure out how. After all, light-water reactors also have negative temperature coefficients, which seem to be the "invention" that makes the pebble bed reactor "inherently safe". But I fail to see what's so fundamentally different between this type of reactor, and the old graphite-gas cooled reactors by the UK and the French, except that now, the reactor core is made out of pebbles instead of blocks...
 
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Well, I had a nuclear reactor physics prof who specialized in HTGRs and his comment was, there could be an accident, e.g. LOCA, and one could scram the reactor, then go to lunch, order a nice bottle of wine and take one's time to figure out how to resolve the problem because the core wouldn't melt, and it could maintain its integrity even without forced cooling during the decay heat period. I don't imagine the nuclear regulators would take such a relaxed and casual attitude, but there is a certain level of confidence that the core materials can handle high temperatures without loosing integrity and releasing fission products to the environment.
 
Astronuc said:
Well, I had a nuclear reactor physics prof who specialized in HTGRs and his comment was, there could be an accident, e.g. LOCA, and one could scram the reactor, then go to lunch, order a nice bottle of wine...

I always thought this was the russian way to handle a reactor accident (just using vodka instead of wine...)

seriously, what about one other favourite worst-case scenario: suicide-terrorist-flies-747-sized-aircraft-into-reactor ? would it provide a safety advantage in this case too ?
 
Oberst Villa said:
seriously, what about one other favourite worst-case scenario: suicide-terrorist-flies-747-sized-aircraft-into-reactor ? would it provide a safety advantage in this case too ?
Western plants are designed with containment structures surrounding the pressure vessel and major components of the primary circuit. These have been tested against aircraft impact, and the modern plants are designed with that as a consideration.
 

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