Same chapters from Griffiths being used for EM1 and EM2?

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The discussion revolves around the use of the same textbook, Griffiths, for both Electromagnetism 1 and Electromagnetism 2 courses at MIT, specifically focusing on the overlap in chapters and content between the two courses. Participants explore the implications of this overlap and the differences in course structure over the years.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that both EM 1 (2006) and EM 2 (2014) cover the same chapters from Griffiths, raising questions about the rationale behind this overlap.
  • Another participant suggests that different instructors may have structured the courses differently, possibly including a review of earlier material in EM 2.
  • A participant highlights that EM 1 appears to cover more material than EM 2, including topics like General Relativity (GR) and Quantum Mechanics (QM), which EM 2 does not address.
  • One suggestion is made to contact the instructor of the 2014 course for clarification on the content changes.
  • A participant compares the difficulty and prerequisites of the courses from 2006 and 2014, indicating that the earlier course may have been less rigorous and more aligned with Purcell's approach, while the later course leans more towards Griffiths and Jackson's material.

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Participants express differing views on the reasons for the overlap in textbook chapters and the structure of the courses, indicating that there is no consensus on the rationale behind the similarities and differences in content.

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Participants mention various course outlines and prerequisites, suggesting that the context of the courses may influence the perceived overlap and differences in content. However, these points remain unresolved and depend on the specific definitions and interpretations of course material.

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Hi everyone, I'm looking at MIT's opencourseware as a template. It seems the same textbook was used for Electromagnetism 1 and 2, even the same chapters, which seems really odd.

For example, both EM 1 (in 2006) and EM 2 (current year 2014) studied Vector Analysis and Electrostatics from the first 2 chapters of Griffiths... What's going on here? Why is EM 2 covering the same stuff as EM 1, from the same textbook no less?

Compare the readings of EM1 from 2006, using Griffiths 3rd edition
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-022-physics-ii-electricity-and-magnetism-fall-2006/readings/

To the course outline of EM 2 from 2014, using Griffiths 4th edition
http://web.mit.edu/8.07/www/geninfo/inf1-f14.pdf

In UofT, for calculus 1A and 1B we used the same textbook (Stewart), but not the same chapters obviously. The same book is even used for Calc II, but it continues forward from Chapter 10...

So this isn't making any sense to me, apparently EM 2 is restudying the same stuff from EM 1...p.s. I just checked, even the rest of the chapters are the same! EM1 from 2006 is actually covering more material then EM 2 today
 
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The two courses are from different years, and likely from different instructors. They may have structured the courses in different ways.

It's also possible that they felt a brief review of the first two chapters would be helpful for the second semester of E&M.
 
But the same chapters are covered throughout the two courses... Actually, EM1 covers more stuff then EM 2 now apparently... EM1 goes up to Chapter 12, giving an intro to GR and QM which EM 2 doesn't even touch...

this is really weird...
 
You can always drop an e-mail to the instructor (of the 2014 course, of course) and ask him about the change of content: LECTURER: Alan H. Guth, Room 6-322, 617-253-6265, guth@ctp.mit.edu
 
The class topics in 2006
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-022-physics-ii-electricity-and-magnetism-fall-2006/readings/
are easier than those from 2014
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-07-electromagnetism-ii-fall-2012/calendar/
and the prequisites from 2006
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-022-physics-ii-electricity-and-magnetism-fall-2006/syllabus/
are less than those from 2014
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-07-electromagnetism-ii-fall-2012/Syllabus/
so 2006 is more Purcell than Griffiths (but leaning in Griffiths direction) and 2014 is more Griffiths than Jackson (but leaning in Jackson's direction).
 
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