Saving money and time for presidents

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the pros and cons of using technology, specifically webcams and microphones, for presidential meetings instead of traditional face-to-face interactions. It explores the implications of remote communication in political contexts, including cost savings and relationship building.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants highlight the cost savings associated with remote meetings, noting that travel expenses for the president and entourage can exceed one million dollars.
  • Others suggest that significant discussions are already conducted via phone or email, indicating a shift towards remote communication.
  • A participant references Wikileaks' stance on long-distance communication, arguing against face-to-face meetings as outdated.
  • One participant argues that remote communication lacks the relationship-building benefits of in-person conversations, suggesting that technology cannot fully replace personal interactions.
  • Another participant mentions the existence of secure video conferencing used by past administrations, indicating that technology has been utilized for high-level discussions.
  • Concerns are raised about the traditional nature of legal document signing, which still relies on physical signatures despite advances in technology.
  • A sarcastic remark is made about the novelty of using a hotline telephone for communication, implying skepticism about the effectiveness of remote methods.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of viewpoints, with some advocating for the benefits of technology in reducing costs and time, while others emphasize the importance of personal relationships in negotiations. The discussion remains unresolved, with competing perspectives on the effectiveness of remote communication.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions regarding the effectiveness of technology in communication, the cultural significance of face-to-face meetings, and the traditional practices in legal documentation. These aspects remain open to interpretation and debate.

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What are the cons of using our "technology" like webcam+microphone for our presidents (and probably many more people) when they want to meet?
So far I see only pros:
Save plane ticket price for the president and all the other necessary crew+all the expenses of the trip (probably over 1 million dollars!).
Save time for many people.
If they need to sign a contract, use a scanner.
 
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I would guess that a significant amount of talks and negotiations are done over the phone or similar, while faxing and e-mailing documents is a staple.
 
Wikileaks recommends long-distance communication between Administrations, and completely disaproves of face-to-face talks as being too old-fashion.
 
Suits are pretty old-fashioned too. Let's take those away. Better yet, racism is also pretty old-fashioned. We can certainly do without that one.
 
The main con is that it doesn't build as much of a relationship. No amount of technology will ever completely replace face-to-face conversations.
 
fluidistic said:
What are the cons of using our "technology" like webcam+microphone for our presidents (and probably many more people) when they want to meet?
So far I see only pros:
Save plane ticket price for the president and all the other necessary crew+all the expenses of the trip (probably over 1 million dollars!).
Save time for many people.
If they need to sign a contract, use a scanner.
One can already do video conferencing, which is handy when a company has different sites, or when interfacing with various parties/clients in different locations. I've participated in numerous teleconferences in which we've employed desktop/document sharing across the internet.

Actually, Bush and Cheney had secure video conference centers at their primary residences outside of Washington DC.

The president uses a government plane/helicopter. Face-to-face meetings are still quite common. The cost of an entourage is certainly significant. But many people like to be able to travel to interesting places, especially if someone else is paying.

Documents are drafted in a wordprocessor, then saved as pdf. Legal documents are still done on paper copy and signed with ink. My company does most reports as pdfs. The signoff page is the only one scanned after the signatures are placed, and we'll retain the original.
 
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You mean like a hot-line telephone? What a novel idea.
 

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