Scattering and bound states

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The discussion revolves around the characteristics of bound and scattering states in quantum mechanics, particularly in relation to their energy spectra and wave functions. Participants explore definitions, examples from quantum mechanics, and seek to understand the underlying principles governing these states.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that bound states (E < 0) result in a discrete energy spectrum, while scattering states (E > 0) lead to a continuous energy spectrum.
  • One participant questions whether a bound state will always yield a discrete energy spectrum solution to the Schrödinger equation, suggesting that this is a consistent observation across various potentials.
  • Another participant agrees that scattering states will lead to continuous energy spectra if the scattered particle is not bound and can move to infinity.
  • There is a query about whether a scattered particle will always have an oscillating wave function, while a bound particle will have an exponential wave function.
  • One participant speculates that bound states will always have sinusoidal time-independent wave functions, while unbound scattering states may exhibit Gaussian-like time-independent wave functions.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the normalizability of bound versus scattering states, with a suggestion that bound states are always normalizable while scattering states may not be.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions of bound and scattering states and their associated energy spectra, but there is no consensus on the nature of their wave functions or the normalizability of these states. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these characteristics.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific examples from Griffiths' quantum mechanics textbook but note that the text does not provide explanations for the observed phenomena, leading to further inquiry and speculation.

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In all the possible potentials I have encountered so far, it seems that the bound states (i.e. E < [V(-infinity) and V(infinity)]) always results in a discrete spectrum of energies, whereas the scattering states (E > [V(-infinity) and V(infinity)]) always results in a continuous spectrum of energies.

I can't seem to find a logical explanation for this. If we use the anove definition of bound and scattering states: The potential at plus/minus infinity of the harmonic oscillator is infinite, but so is the energy (for infinite n). But the harmonic oscillator has a bound spectrum.

I can't quite see this. I've taken the above from Griffith's, and sadly he never mentions whether "bound states = discrete spectrum" or not.
 
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Ok, I can see that my question is poorly formulated. I'll refraise it:

First of all, a bound states is defined as the energy E < 0 and a scattering state is defined as E > 0. My questions on this topic are the following:

1) Will a bound state (i.e. E < 0) always result in a solution of the Schrödinger equation with a discrete energy spectrum?

2) Will a scattering state (i.e. E > 0) always result in a solution of the Schrödinger equation with a continuous energy spectrum?

In all the potentials I've encountered so far (harmonic oscillator, free particle, infinite square well and finite square well) it is so. But no where in the book (Griffiths) is an explanation of why. Can you guys enlighten me?
 
1) Will a bound state (i.e. E < 0) always result in a solution of the Schrödinger equation with a discrete energy spectrum?

Yes. I think the easy way to see this is to note that every bound wave, classical or quantum, is limited to a discrete set of possible frequencies/ wave lengths. So if you span a cord, fix it on both ends, then pluck it, you will see you can not make it wave in every possible frequency.

The discrete wave spectrum translates in a discrete energy spectrum.

2) Will a scattering state (i.e. E > 0) always result in a solution of the Schrödinger equation with a continuous energy spectrum?

If the scattered particle is allowed to go to infinity, is not bound, then yes.
 
Will a scattered particle always have an oscillating wave function? And similarly, will a bound particle always have an exponential wave function?

Again, these things I am taking from the examples in Griffith's QM book.

EDIT: And are bound states always normalizable, whereas scattering states are not?
 
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bound states will always have sinusoidal time independent wave functions i think. and likewise I'm going to take a guess and say that an unbound scattering state will always have a guassian like time independent wave function.
 
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