Schrodinger equation on the complex disk

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The discussion revolves around the possibility of formulating an analogue of the Schrödinger equation on the complex disk, specifically considering the implications for wave functions and their interpretations in this context. The scope includes theoretical considerations and mathematical reasoning related to quantum mechanics and complex analysis.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the Schrödinger equation can be applied to the complex disk, noting that the configuration space is defined in terms of complex numbers.
  • Another participant argues that while points on a 2D plane can be represented as complex numbers, the product of two complex numbers lacks a clear physical interpretation in this context.
  • Concerns are raised about the wave function ##\psi(z)## not needing to be analytical, as sine or cosine functions may lead to non-normalizable behaviors when analytically continued to the imaginary axis.
  • A participant suggests that if the real 2D disk is considered, the situation may be similar to that of the 2D plane, prompting further inquiry into the physical interpretation of ##\psi(z)##.
  • Another participant proposes that energy eigenfunctions for a particle in a circular 2D box could be expressed in terms of Bessel functions, specifically mentioning the form of the wave function proportional to ##J_l(k\sqrt{x^2 + y^2})##.
  • There is a suggestion that the Schrödinger equation on the disk may take a radial form, with eigenfunctions also proportional to Bessel functions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of the Schrödinger equation to the complex disk and the interpretation of wave functions. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives on the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential issues with the interpretation of complex variables and the implications for normalizability of wave functions. There are also references to the Cauchy-Riemann equations and their relevance to the problem, but these aspects remain under discussion without resolution.

Ssnow
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Hi to all member of the Physics Forums. I have this question: it is possible consider the analogue of the Schrödinger equation on the plane with configuration space ##(x,p)\in\mathbb{R}^4## on the complex disk ##\mathbb{D}=\{z\in\mathbb{C}: |z|<1\}##?
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You can describe a point on 2D plane as a complex number, but the product of two such complex numbers doesn't have any clear interpretation in that case. The wave function ##\psi (z)## could not be required to be analytical in that situation, because a sine or cosine type function will behave like an increasing exponential function (not normalizable) if analytically continued to the imaginary axis.
 
hilbert2 said:
You can describe a point on 2D plane as a complex number, but the product of two such complex numbers doesn't have any clear interpretation in that case. The wave function ##\psi (z)## could not be required to be analytical in that situation, because a sine or cosine type function will behave like an increasing exponential function (not normalizable) if analytically continued to the imaginary axis.
Ok this is clear because from the complex point of view ##z## cannot be treated as a real position vector and, as conseguence, the physical interpretation of ##\psi(z)## is not so clear ... but if we consider the real 2D disk ## \mathbb{D}_{\mathbb{R}}=\{(x,y)\in\mathbb{R}^{2}: x^2+y^2<1\}## ? Is the situation similar to the 2D plane case?
Ssnow
 
If you absorb the coordinates ##x## and ##y## in the same complex variable ##z=x+iy## and write the energy eigenfunctions for a particle confined in a circular 2D box, they should be proportional to

##\displaystyle\psi (z) \propto J_l (k\sqrt{x^2 + y^2 })##,

where ##k## is a constant that depends on the energy eigenvalue and ##J_l## is a Bessel function.

If you're able to show that a complex function ##\psi (x+iy) = J_l (k\sqrt{x^2 + y^2})## with ##k,x,y\in\mathbb{R}## doesn't comply with Cauchy-Riemann equations, then the problem would be solved.
 
Ok thanks! I will think on.
Ssnow
 
Another specification, the Schrödinger equation on the disk will be of radial form (it is correct?) with ##r< 1## I suppose with the eigenfunctions proportional to Bessel functions ...
Ssnow
 

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