Score for Physics Subject Test & Strategies for Masters Program

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The discussion centers around the preparation for the GRE and the physics subject test, specifically regarding the scores needed for admission into a master's program in physics. Participants share their experiences and strategies, addressing concerns about GPA and the competitiveness of applications to mid-range schools.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confidence in achieving a competitive GRE score despite a GPA of 2.5 in physics and 2.6 in math, seeking advice on minimum scores for decent master's programs.
  • Another participant suggests that a GPA of 2.5 may not be detrimental depending on the institution, sharing an anecdote about a successful individual with a similar GPA who later excelled in graduate studies.
  • There is a proposal that achieving a score of 90% or higher on the GRE could strengthen an application, along with recommendations to consider lesser-known schools and local extension programs for improving academic standing.
  • A participant with a background in Molecular Biology and a minor in Physics indicates plans to apply to a master's program, seeking input on their qualifications.
  • Concerns are raised about the ability to handle graduate-level physics courses given the participant's GPA and course load, suggesting that a high score on the physics GRE (at least the 80th percentile) is necessary to gain attention from graduate schools.
  • Another participant clarifies their coursework, stating they have completed fundamental and upper-division physics classes, and plans to take additional advanced courses before graduation, indicating readiness to pay for their education and potentially pursue a Ph.D. later.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the implications of GPA and GRE scores for graduate school admissions. While some suggest that high GRE scores can compensate for lower GPAs, others emphasize the importance of demonstrating preparedness for graduate-level coursework. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific scores needed and the best strategies for improving admission chances.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention varying standards at different institutions, the potential for personal statements to influence admissions, and the importance of demonstrating academic improvement. There is uncertainty about the exact requirements for admission to specific programs.

Who May Find This Useful

Students preparing for the GRE, particularly those with lower GPAs seeking admission to master's programs in physics, as well as individuals considering a transition from other fields into physics graduate studies.

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Currently I am preparing to take the GRE and I have seen the states for the average physics student score on the quantitative, and I believe I can reach it. I also took a look at the Subject test, the score were pretty high.

My question is what is the minimum score you need to get in order to get into a decent masters program. I am not shooting for an MIT, Michigan, or CalTech, but a school in the mid range. I only have a GPA 2.5 in my physics classes and 2.6 in my math classes so I am fairly realistic of what my options are but I am dedicated and determined to learn physics. Fields of interest are applied , Solid State, or High Energy (atomic, plasma) physics.

What score do I need with my GPA?
Any advice on study strategys and prep work in general?
 
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I don't think a 2.5 is necessarily a bad gpa depending on what school you go to. At some schools an A in some math courses happens once in five years. I also know someone, one of my teachers, who got a chemistry degree at Cornell. He said that his ugpa was somewhere around 2.5 when he graduated (maybe lower than that). He got a job working in a lab at cornell and went to school part-time (took one class a semester) all the way up to Ph.D. and graduated with a 4.0. The difference was that he only had to handle one class. Thats a pretty good option because it was all paid for. I say this because getting support for your first year will be hard.

I would imagine that, and I am pretty much guessing, that 90% and up would make a strong case to many great schools that they should admit you with support. Also, consider apply to schools that not many people talk about such as in missouri (columbia). I know they are strong in math/physics and geometry. Finally, you could go to a school close to you via an extension program for a year. take two courses per semester do really good work (top student in class). then ask your teachers for help in getting into the program at that school. You could work part time to pay for that. Also since you haven't graduated yet try to do well this semester. An upperward spike is always better than the inverse.
 
I am currently finishing up a Major in Molecular Biology and Minoring in Physics for University of Washington (seattlle). I plan on going to a masters in Physics program similar to U.Memphis (Tennessee).

thanks for the input.
 
What will be most difficult for you is to convince a graduate school that you would be able to handle graduate level physics courses. You say you have a minor in physics, with a 2.5GPA in it, and also a low math GPA. Did you take a lot of physics courses or only the fundamentals plus a few others? Your preparation simply might not be good enough to start out at the level that is expected for incoming physics graduate students.

I think to get attention you would need to score pretty high on the physics GRE, I would say at least 80th percentile. It would also be to your benefit to have a personal statement including a good explanation of why you want to do physics (not even biophysics) after coming from a molecular biology background.

One thing that might happen is that you would get an offer of admission, but no assistantship. You would essentially be given the chance to prove yourself to the department, but on your own dime.
 
I have taken all the fundamentals and plus four more upper division physics classes. (Modern, Thermo, 2 math phyics courses) I also plan on taking EM II, Relativity, and Quantum mechanics before I graduate. The minor is more rigerous than it sounds, I already have finished my math requirements. I am prepared to pay for school, that is why I want to go through the masters program first. Hopefully I will do well and then possibly apply to the PH.D program.
 

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