Second derivatives and local max/min

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The discussion focuses on the function f(x,y) = xy + (1/x) + (1/y) and the application of the second derivative test for identifying local maxima and minima. The first derivatives are calculated as fx = y - (1/x²) and fy = x - (1/y²). It is established that points where y = 0 are excluded from the domain of the function due to resulting in infinity for x-coordinates. The second derivative test is clarified, confirming that if D > 0 and fyy < 0, then fxx must also be less than 0, indicating a local maximum.

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If f(x,y)= xy+(1/x)+(1/y)

I find that fx= y-(1/x2)=0 and fy=x-(1/y2)=0.

Solving for coordinates x and y by substituting the equations, I find that y=0 or 1. However, if i try to solve for x-coordinates with y=0, I get an infinity. So does that mean I ignore the possibility of y=0?

Another question is with second-derivative test where D=fxx*fyy-fxy2.

I know that if D>0 and fxx<0, then it is a local max. But what if I was told D>0 and given only fyy<0 and was to determine if it's a local max or min. Could I make the same argument with only fyy<0 that it is a local max?Thanks a lot
 
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If f(x,y)= xy+(1/x)+(1/y)

I find that fx= y-(1/x2)=0 and fy=x-(1/y2)=0.

Solving for coordinates x and y by substituting the equations, I find that y=0 or 1. However, if i try to solve for x-coordinates with y=0, I get an infinity. So does that mean I ignore the possibility of y=0?
Yes. Any (x,y) point with y= 0 is not in the domain of the function.

Another question is with second-derivative test where D=fxx*fyy-fxy2.

I know that if D>0 and fxx<0, then it is a local max. But what if I was told D>0 and given only fyy<0 and was to determine if it's a local max or min. Could I make the same argument with only fyy<0 that it is a local max?
-fxy2 is always negative. In order that D be positive it is necessary that fxxfyy be positive (and greater than fxy2). That means that fxx and fyy must have the same sign. Knowing that fyy< 0 immediately tells you that fxx< 0.

Thanks a lot
 
Oh right. Thanks for clearing that up HallsofIvy :smile:
 

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