Self-adjoint operators and Hermitian operators

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The discussion centers on the differences and similarities between self-adjoint operators and Hermitian operators, particularly in the context of quantum mechanics and functional analysis. Participants explore definitions, implications, and the significance of these concepts in both finite and infinite-dimensional spaces.

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  • Some participants suggest that self-adjoint and Hermitian operators are interchangeable in finite-dimensional spaces, where both concepts refer to operators equal to their adjoint.
  • Others argue that in the context of a general complex separable Hilbert space, Hermitian refers to symmetric operators, which may not necessarily be self-adjoint.
  • A later reply emphasizes that quantum mechanics requires self-adjoint operators to represent observables, not merely symmetric ones.
  • One participant notes that the definition of Hermitian operators in physics often aligns with the mathematical definition of symmetric operators, which can lead to confusion regarding the spectral theorem's applicability.
  • Another participant elaborates on the importance of considering the domains of operators when discussing unbounded operators, stating that self-adjoint operators have the same domain as their adjoint, while symmetric operators do not necessarily share this property.
  • There is a mention of the concept of essentially self-adjoint operators, which have a unique extension to a self-adjoint operator, highlighting the complexity of the topic.
  • One participant raises a question about the conditions under which a continuous map can extend from a dense subspace to the entire space, suggesting a potential connection to the discussion.

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Participants express differing views on the definitions and implications of self-adjoint and Hermitian operators, particularly in relation to finite versus infinite-dimensional spaces. There is no consensus on whether these terms can be used interchangeably in all contexts.

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The discussion highlights the limitations of definitions based on specific contexts, particularly regarding unbounded operators and the importance of domain considerations. The distinction between symmetric and self-adjoint operators is noted as a critical aspect that may not be adequately addressed in introductory physics literature.

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I was wondering what the difference is between the two. Would be nice if someone could explain the difference in simple terms, because it appears to be essential to my quantum mechanics course.
 
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Basically, they're interchangeable.

- Every operator ##T## on a (complex) Hilbert space ##\mathcal H## has a unique adjoint operator ##T^*##, pinned down by the property that##\langle Tx,y\rangle=\langle x,T^*y\rangle## for every ##x,y\in\mathcal H##. We say ##T## is a self-adjoint operator if ##T^*=T##.
- Every square (compex) matrix ##A## has a unique conjugate transpose ##A^*##. We say ##A## is a Hermitian matrix if ##A^*=A##.
- If ##\mathcal H## is finite-dimensional, and ##A## is the matrix which represents ##T## with respect to some given orthonormal basis (e.g. the standard basis if ##\mathcal H = \mathbb C^n##), then it's straightforward to verify that the conjugate transpose matrix ##A^*## represents the adjoint operator ##T^*##. In particular, ##T## is self-adjoint if and only if ##A## is Hermitian.

So if we're careful (e.g. only using orthonormal bases, for instance), then "self-adjoint" and "Hermitian" mean the same thing in the finite dimensional world. I would suppose they're also being used interchangeably for operators on an arbitrary Hilbert space.
 
For a general complex separable Hilbert space, Hermitean is an old-fashioned notion for what mathematicians call symmetric operator. A symmetric operator has an unique adjoint who's nothing but an extension of it. Self-adjoint is the operator which is equal to its adjoint (in von Neumann's words: hypermaximal symmetric). Quantum Mechanics needs self-adjoint operators to depict observables, not symmetric ones.
 
Things are slightly more complicated in the infinite dimensional case when unbounded operators are considered. In fact when physicists say Hermitian, the definition they often give is something like [itex]A[/itex] is Hermitian if [itex]\langle u | A | v \rangle=\langle v|A|u\rangle^*[/itex] for all [itex]u,v\in \mathcal{H}[/itex] however they also want the spectral theorem and all it's consequences to apply to [itex]A[/itex]. Strictly speaking this definition merely says that [itex]A[/itex] is what mathematicians would call symmetric and the spectral theorem does NOT necessarily apply to such operators.

To give the precise definition for unbounded operators, it is necessary to pay close attention to the domains of the operators in question. So, suppose that an operator [itex]A[/itex] is defined on the domain [itex]\mathcal{D}(A)[/itex] which is dense in [itex]\mathcal{H}[/itex]. Then the adjoint [itex]A^\dagger[/itex] of [itex]A[/itex] is defined on the domain consisting of all [itex]u\in \mathcal{H}[/itex] such that the map [itex]v\mapsto \langle u,Av \rangle[/itex] for [itex]v\in \mathcal{D}(A)[/itex] extends to a bounded linear functional on all of [itex]\mathcal{H}.[/itex] (Note that this extension is unique since the domain is dense.) In this case, the adjoint [itex]A^\dagger[/itex] is defined to be the element of [itex]\mathcal{H}[/itex] corresponding to this linear functional via the Riesz-representation theorem so that the equality [itex]\langle A^\dagger u,v\rangle=\langle u,Av\rangle[/itex] as expected.

The definition of symmetric (or Hermitian as physicists often call it) is simply that [itex]\langle Au,v\rangle=\langle u,Av\rangle[/itex] for all [itex]u,v\in \mathcal{D}(A)[/itex]. The definition of self-adjoint is that [itex]A^\dagger =A[/itex]. The key point here is that in general, [itex]\mathcal{D}(A^\dagger) \supseteq \mathcal{D}(A)[/itex] so a self-adjoint operator has the extra condition that it's adjoint has the same domain as the operator itself which a merely symmetric operator need not satisfy. It is often possible to extend a symmetric operator to a self-adjoint operator by extending it's domain but, contrary to what a previous poster stated, even if this is possible I believe there is no guarantee that you get a unique extension. A related class of operators, the essentially self-adjoint ones, are precisely those which have a unique extension to a self-adjoint operator but this does not include all symmetric operators.

Since the majority of physics books I've read anyway (at least the more introductory ones) do not pay very close attention to the precise domain on which unbounded operators are defined, the above distinction between self-adjoint and symmetric seems to get blurred or not mentioned at all but as I said, the spectral theorem only applies to self-adjoint operators not Hermitian(symmetric) ones so these are what are really meant if you want to be precise.
 
Are we making use here somewhere that for a continuous (i.e., linear + bounded ) map L to extend from a dense subspace into the space (when the target space is a complete normed space), that L must be uniformly-continuous?
 

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