Self-Learning Trig and Calculus for Physics: What are the Prerequisites?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the prerequisites for self-learning trigonometry and calculus in preparation for studying physics. Participants explore various resources, methods, and foundational knowledge necessary for mastering these mathematical concepts.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests starting with an old textbook on trigonometry and questions its suitability for self-study.
  • Another participant advises to slow down and emphasizes the importance of practice over rushing through the material.
  • Several participants recommend online resources, including specific websites and Khan Academy, for learning pre-calculus topics such as trigonometric functions, logarithms, and sequences.
  • One participant mentions that a good understanding of manipulating equations and the unit circle is essential for calculus.
  • There is a suggestion that approaching physics from a calculus perspective may be more effective than learning the math first, though this is contested.
  • A participant expresses a desire to know if studying electrical engineering requires a strong foundation in math and physics, indicating a broader interest in the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of opinions regarding the best approach to learning math for physics. While some emphasize the importance of foundational knowledge and practice, others suggest that it is acceptable to learn calculus concepts concurrently with physics. No consensus is reached on the necessity of specific prerequisites.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various resources and methods without agreeing on a singular best approach. There are also differing views on the necessity of pre-calculus as a prerequisite for calculus.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for high school students or self-learners interested in mathematics and physics, particularly those seeking guidance on resources and study methods.

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Hi,
I'm a sophmore in high school, right now I am in honors chemistry and algebra 2, (if you are familiar with science bowl, my school, mira loma, won last year)

I want to learn trig and eventually calculus on my own, with the hopes of understanding high school and college level physics. I have an old textbook from my dad's study, its by Mcgraw hill and it says "Plane Trigonometry with Tables"(1974) is this a good textbook to learn from? If not what is a better method and what would be better for learning calculus and physics on my own?

Also, what are the REAL pre-req.s to learn calculus and trig because there's a lot of stuff I hear like Pre Calculus is not really related or used in Calculus, so what do I need to learn then?
 
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My first words of advice would be to slow down. You don't have to learn all of this now. Most introductory physics textbooks can be read and worked through with a little bit of trig. As with learning any subject by yourself the most important thing is practice. Their really isn't one method of self study; normally you learn the way you feel most comfortable with. All that is left is work lots and lots of problems. This is the only way to get good at something like math. Once you understand a concept try explaining it to someone else. Teaching is the ultimate evidence of true understanding of a subject.

Good Luck!
 
You can learn pre-calculus math(algebra, trigonometry, etc.) from online sources. Try this site out: http://www.themathpage.com/aPreCalc/precalculus.htm , continue through the topics until you understand everything there. I would say you need a good knowledge of the following: Trigonometry(sin, cos, tan, identities, etc.), exponents and exponential functions, logarithms and logarithmic functions, functions(of course), conic sections(ellipse, hyperbola, and parabola), sequences and infinite series, and so on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_trigonometric_identities#Trigonometric_functions
You should memorize everything between tan = sin/cos up till related identities.
Remember logbx = n and bn = x.
To get the value of n you do: logx/logb(or logexponent/logbase)
I'm sure you already memorized (-b +/- sqrt(b2 -4ac) /2a, sohcahtoa and etc.

Like I said, check out http://www.themathpage.com/aPreCalc/precalculus.htm or http://www.youtube.com/khanacademy
 
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Especially check out khan academy. My advice is use Khan Academy to learn the material, then find somewhere to do practice problems.
 
Char. Limit said:
Especially check out khan academy. My advice is use Khan Academy to learn the material, then find somewhere to do practice problems.
You mean visit:
http://khanexercises.appspot.com/
And then find somewhere else to do more practice problems :-p
 
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Oh wow, now that is a great place. I never knew Sal made practice problems too.
 
Hello there I want to know that i study economics and want to know that is it difficult to study electrical or need to study maths and physics on my own please recommend me.
 
Everything in the review of this page is needed to learn calculus: http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcI/CalcI.aspx

Don't read the notes, they are short and brief, and are meant to be read after a book or supplement formal teaching. Mostly in calculus you should be good with manipulating equations and knowing the unit circle. You can probably even understand limits and derivatives now. Don't be afraid to jump into something.

Some people were saying to not worry about learning all this now. It is better to approach physics from a calculus perspective and will make you better with physics. The other way can be done too, just not as effective.
 
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