Sending a sound wave of 1cm wavelength through a 0.1Pascal medium

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The discussion revolves around the propagation of sound waves in a medium, specifically focusing on a sound wave with a wavelength of 1 cm traveling through a medium with a pressure of 0.1 Pascal. Participants are exploring the implications of wavelength and mean free path in the context of sound wave behavior.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the relationship between the wavelength of the sound wave and the mean free path of molecules in the medium. Questions arise regarding the behavior of molecules in a standing wave and the nature of their interactions at nodes.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the physical setup and behavior of molecules in a standing wave. Insights are being requested to further explore the implications of the wavelength and the mean free path.

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There is some confusion regarding the setup of the problem, particularly in understanding how molecules behave in relation to nodes in a standing wave and the pressure variations that occur at these points.

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Homework Statement
At what pressure (at room temperature) would the mean free path of air molecules reach a macroscopic scale like ##10## cm ? Explain (qualitatively) what would happen if we tried to propagate a sound wave of wavelength ##1## cm in these conditions.
Relevant Equations
$$ l \approx \frac{1}{4 \pi r^{2}}\frac{kT}{p}, $$
I answered the first part of the question where I estimate the radius of ##O_{2}## is ##\approx 1.5 \times 10^{-10} \ \text{m}##:
$$ p = \frac{KT}{l 4 \pi r^{2}} = \frac{(20+273.15)(1.38\times 10^{-23})}{(0.1)(4\pi)(1.5 \times 10^{-10})^{2}} = 0.143 \ \text{Pa}.$$

The confusion arises on the second part of the question. Intuitively I'm thinking that a wave sent through a medium compresses and decompresses periodically the molecules it goes through. If the wavelength is ##1##cm and the mean free path is ##10##cm , then I believe the mean free path will increase by a factor of ##10##? I'm not sure what to think of this problem. Any insights would be appreciated.
 
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Consider a standing wave. Between two nodes, the molecules are bouncing back and forth. What are they bouncing off?
 
haruspex said:
Consider a standing wave. Between two nodes, the molecules are bouncing back and forth. What are they bouncing off?
Sorry , I am not sure to understand the setup. Are they just bouncing off the nodes?
 
Mihail Anghelici said:
Sorry , I am not sure to understand the setup. Are they just bouncing off the nodes?
In a standing sound wave, what is happening at a node in terms of pressure variation and displacement?
 

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