Separating real and complex parts of a number

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The discussion revolves around expressing a complex expression involving a parameter \(\gamma_0\) in terms of its amplitude and phase. The expression in question is \(S=\frac{k}{\sqrt{1+i\gamma_0}} \cdot exp\left(\frac{z}{1 + i\gamma_0}\right)\), where participants are tasked with separating the real and imaginary components.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss methods for extracting the amplitude and phase from the given expression, with some suggesting the use of complex conjugates and exponential forms. Questions arise regarding the nature of the variables involved, particularly whether \(z\) is complex and how to handle the fraction involving \(1+i\gamma_0\).

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem, including suggestions to express components in exponential form and to consider the real and imaginary parts of the involved expressions. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations and methods without a clear consensus on the final approach.

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It is noted that \(z\) is real and negative, and \(k\) is a real and positive constant. Participants are also considering the implications of these constraints on their calculations.

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Homework Statement


Hello, I am supposed to express the and the phase part of expression:

[itex]\displaystyle{S=\frac{k}{\sqrt{1+i\gamma_0}} \cdot exp\left(\frac{z}{1 + i\gamma_0}\right)}[/itex]

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The answer should be in the form:

[itex]\displaystyle{S=a(\gamma_0) \cdot exp\left(i\varphi(\gamma_0)\right)}[/itex]

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Well, its clear(probably) that for the amplitude part I just have to multiply this equation by its complex conjugate and take a square root out of the result. This leaves me with the expression of:
[itex]\displaystyle{ a(\gamma_0)=\frac{k}{\left(1+\gamma^2_0\right)^{1/4}} \cdot exp\left(\frac{z}{1+\gamma^2_0}\right) }[/itex]

However, I don't quite understand how to get the complex(phase) part of the number? A hint where to start would be very gladly accepted :), thank you.
 
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Well, its clear(probably) that for the real part I just have to multiply this equation by its complex conjugate and take a square root out of the result.

It is the magnitude or absolute value of the complex number instead of the real part. So how do you get the real and imaginary parts?


ehild
 
Ah yes, sorry, its the amplitude, thanks for noticing. I'll reformulate the problem. I need to get the expressions for the amplitude and the phase.
 
Is z in the exponent a complex number? Then write it out with its real and imaginary parts, and find the real and imaginary parts of z/(1+iγ0), so you have the exponential in the form exp(u+iv) .

Write the fraction 1/(1+iγ0) in exponential form, too: exp(a+ib). Then your formula is equal to k*exp((a+u)+i(b+v)). k*exp(a+b) is the magnitude, and the phase is b+v.

ehild
 
z is real and negative and k is real and positive constant. Anyway, expressing the fraction sqrt(1/(1+iy0) can get me just as close as:

[itex]\displaystyle{ k \cdot exp \left(\frac{1}{2}ln \left( \frac{1}{1+\gamma^2_0}-\frac{i\gamma_0}{1+\gamma^2_0}\right) \right) }[/itex]

Which I don't understand how to simplify to form exp(a+ib). I have also tried expressing phase from the general form:

[itex]\displaystyle{ \frac{S}{a(\gamma_0)}=exp \left(i \varphi \right) }[/itex]

Which is kinnda closer to the answer with the expression:

[itex]\displaystyle{ i\varphi=\frac{1}{4}ln\left(\frac{1-i\gamma_0}{1+i\gamma_0} \right) - <br /> \frac{i\gamma_0z}{1+\gamma^2_0} }[/itex]

The answer should be:

[itex]\displaystyle{\varphi = -\frac{1}{2}arctan\ \gamma_0 - \frac{\gamma_0z}{1+\gamma^2_0} }[/itex]
 
Write all factors in the exponential form: r*e. Any complex number u+iv= r*e, where [itex]r=\sqrt{(u^2+v^2) }[/itex] and tan(φ)=v/u.
This way, [itex]1+i \gamma_0=\sqrt{1+\gamma_0 ^2} e^ {i\arctan(\gamma_0)}[/itex]

ehild
 
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ah yes, thank you very much:)
 

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