Separation of Variables (PDE) for the Laplace Equation

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The discussion revolves around the application of the separation of variables method to solve the Laplace equation, specifically focusing on the orthogonality of sine functions and the implications for coefficients in a series expansion. Participants are examining the mathematical steps involved in deriving the coefficients from the given equation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the equation \(\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}a_n \sin(\frac{n \pi x}{2}) \sinh(\frac{n \pi}{2}) = \sin(\frac{\pi x}{2})\) implies that all coefficients \(a_n\) must be zero except for \(a_1\).
  • One participant expresses confusion about why all \(a_n\) must be zero except \(a_1\) and requests clarification on this point.
  • Another participant explains that the orthogonality of the sine functions on the interval (0,2) leads to the conclusion that the integral of the product of different sine functions is zero unless the indices are equal, which is used to derive the coefficients.
  • The integration process is described, showing how multiplying both sides of the original equation by \(\sin(\frac{m \pi x}{2})\) and integrating leads to specific results for \(a_m\).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing levels of understanding regarding the implications of the orthogonality of sine functions and the resulting coefficients. There is no consensus on the clarity of the explanation provided for why all \(a_n\) must be zero except \(a_1\.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the dependence on the orthogonality property of sine functions and the specific interval of integration, which may not be fully understood by all participants. The mathematical steps involved in deriving the coefficients remain a point of contention.

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I've attached an image of a solved problem. Can somebody explain the steps in the yellow box? I don't understand how they got to that point from the previous steps.
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I suspect it is the first step that is bothering you.
\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}a_n \sin(\frac{n \pi x}{2}) \sinh(\frac{n \pi}{2}) = \sin(\frac{\pi x}{2})
This is true for all values of x. The only way this can be true is for all of the a_n to be zero except a_1. Is this the step that is troubling you? After this, the rest follows pretty easily.
 
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phyzguy said:
I suspect it is the first step that is bothering you.
\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}a_n \sin(\frac{n \pi x}{2}) \sinh(\frac{n \pi}{2}) = \sin(\frac{\pi x}{2})
This is true for all values of x. The only way this can be true is for all of the a_n to be zero except a_1. Is this the step that is troubling you? After this, the rest follows pretty easily.
That is the step that is bothering me. Can you explain why all values of a must be 0 except a1?
 
FAS1998 said:
That is the step that is bothering me. Can you explain why all values of a must be 0 except a1?

The functions \sin(\frac{n \pi x}{2}) are orthogonal functions on the interval (0,2). If I integrate:
\int_0^2 \sin(\frac{n \pi x}{2}) \sin(\frac{m \pi x}{2}) dx = \delta_{nm}
so it is zero unless n=m. So if you take your original expression, multiply both sides by \sin(\frac{m \pi x}{2}) and integrate both sides you get:

\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}a_n \sinh(\frac{n \pi}{2}) \int_0^2 \sin(\frac{n \pi x}{2}) \sin(\frac{m \pi x}{2}) = \int_0^2 \sin(\frac{\pi x}{2}) \sin(\frac{m \pi x}{2}) dx

This gives a_m \sinh(\frac{m \pi}{2}) = 0 if m is not equal to 1, and a_m \sinh(\frac{m \pi}{2}) = 1 if m = 1.
 
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