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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence or divergence of the series \(\frac{3+\cos(n)}{n}\) from \(n=1\) to infinity, with a focus on the implications of trigonometric functions within series analysis.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the nature of the series, questioning whether it can be treated as alternating and discussing the possibility of splitting it into two separate series for analysis.
  • Some participants suggest finding bounds for the series or using the squeeze theorem, while others raise concerns about the complexity of proving convergence for the trigonometric component.
  • There is a discussion about the convergence of the harmonic series and its implications for the overall series.

Discussion Status

The conversation is active, with various participants offering differing perspectives on how to approach the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the examination of separate series and the potential use of bounding techniques, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive method or conclusion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of proving convergence for \(\frac{\cos(n)}{n}\) and the implications of the series being non-alternating due to the positivity of its terms. There is also mention of homework constraints that may limit the methods available for analysis.

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Homework Statement


Determine whether the series [3+cos(n)]/n from n=1 to infinity is convergent or divergent. Explain your reasoning and demonstrate that any conditions required to use a particular test are satisfied.


Homework Equations


Any series tests: ratio test, alternating sequence test


The Attempt at a Solution


After writing out the first few terms I believe that the series is alternating and converging, however I can't seem to find out how to convert this into the form of an alternating series to be able to perform the alternating series test. I know there is a way to use power series to convert cosine to a series form but I believe this question is meant to be done without power series. Thanks in advance.
 
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##3 + \cos(n)## is positive for all ##n##, so it can't be an alternating series.

Try finding some simple upper and lower bounds for ##3 + \cos(n)##, and see if you can conclude anything.
 
And you can also split the given series into two separate series and see if both are convergent separately.
 
SteamKing said:
And you can also split the given series into two separate series and see if both are convergent separately.

I wouldn't do that. cos(n)/n converges, but the proof of that is considerably harder than proving the original series diverges.
 
Dick said:
I wouldn't do that. cos(n)/n converges, but the proof of that is considerably harder than proving the original series diverges.

But does the series (3/n) converge? After all, I was only suggesting taking (3 + cos (n))/n and re-writing it as (3/n) + (cos (n)/n). Since, as was stated above, all terms of this series are positive and hence non-alternating, you should be able to examine the convergence of the two resulting series independently. If one series can be shown to diverge, it doesn't really matter what the other series does.
 
SteamKing said:
But does the series (3/n) converge? After all, I was only suggesting taking (3 + cos (n))/n and re-writing it as (3/n) + (cos (n)/n). Since, as was stated above, all terms of this series are positive and hence non-alternating, you should be able to examine the convergence of the two resulting series independently. If one series can be shown to diverge, it doesn't really matter what the other series does.

But ##\cos n## is negative infinitely often. If indeed that summation diverges, it may be to negative infinity. In which case, you're still left with the difficult task of deciding how that "offsets" the positively divergent harmonic sum part.

The only way to conclude that the entire series is divergent after splitting them up is to recognise that the series sum of ##\frac{\cos n}{n}## is convergent. In which case, the divergence of the harmonic sum part makes for a trivial conclusion. But showing that trig part is convergent is the real toughie.

Much better to just bound the entire terms of the series by constant multiples of harmonic terms and use the squeeze theorem.
 
SteamKing said:
But does the series (3/n) converge? After all, I was only suggesting taking (3 + cos (n))/n and re-writing it as (3/n) + (cos (n)/n). Since, as was stated above, all terms of this series are positive and hence non-alternating, you should be able to examine the convergence of the two resulting series independently. If one series can be shown to diverge, it doesn't really matter what the other series does.

The sum of two divergent series can converge. (-1)^n diverges, (-1)^(n+1) diverges. The sum is zero and converges. As Curious3141 said, if you can show cos(n)/n converges then the divergence of the harmonic part is enough, but that requires something like a Dirichlet test or a partial sum using Euler's equation. Way harder than showing the original series diverges.
 
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I see what you're saying now. My thinking cap slipped off my head.
 
SteamKing said:
I see what you're saying now. My thinking cap slipped off my head.

Has been increasingly happening to me of late. Must be the thinning hair. :smile:
 
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Oh! I see now, thanks for the help.
 

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