Shocley equation/Cyclotron motion (2Q's)

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The discussion revolves around two main topics: the effective resistance of a pn junction diode as described by Shockley's equation and the charge-to-mass ratio of particles in cyclotron motion influenced by electric and magnetic fields. Participants explore the relationships between voltage, current, and resistance in the context of Shockley's equation, as well as the dynamics of charged particles in a magnetic field.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between resistivity and Shockley's equation, questioning how to express resistance as voltage approaches zero. They also explore the implications of electric and magnetic fields on the motion of charged particles, attempting to derive the charge-to-mass ratio in terms of given variables.

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The conversation includes various attempts to connect concepts, with some participants providing equations and reasoning about the behavior of resistance and charge-to-mass ratios. There is an ongoing exploration of how different variables interact, and while some guidance has been offered, no consensus has been reached on the final interpretations or calculations.

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Participants are working within the constraints of homework rules, focusing on theoretical aspects without providing complete solutions. There is mention of needing to consider limits and the behavior of functions as variables approach specific values.

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What is the effective resistance R of a pn junction diode that obeys Shockley’s equation, as a function of the bias voltage V ? What is the resistance in the limit delta V approaches 0?

I know the shockley equation, but how does reistivity relate to it? I'm assuming you can substitute it in the quation relating it to current, but I'm not sure of the espression. Last parts ok to. Resistance should go to zero, right?

Then he turned off the electric field, and measured the radius of curvature R of the beam, as deflected by the magnetic field alone. What is the charge-to-mass ratio q/m of the particles in terms of E, B and R?

This is to do with a cyclotron, initially with equal magnetic and electric fields, such that the net force was zero, and the electron only went perfectry striaght perpendicular to the forces. Then he turns off the electric field. This is like a mass spectrometer.

I know tha R=mv/qB, so there's the relation of R and B, but how does E fit into all of this. E=qV, but I can't see anyway of fitting this in, sine we need the q for the ratio q/m.
 
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Ok, quick update. I have the equation q/m = 2V/R^2B^2, so now do I have to integrate Voltage over the area of the semicircle?
 
Now I have that from mag F = Lec F to get a velocity using the veloctiy selector, we
v = -E/B. Subbing this iunto r=mv/qB, we get q/m = -E/RB^2. Not entirely sure about this but I have something in terms of R, B and E. Plus for the next part, we are only given E, B and R to calculate the ratio.
 
Ok, for the Shockley equation question, i have as V increases, I increases exponentially. From R=V/I, sice I increases much faster than V, R approaches zero.

Now for the part where V goes to zero, the whole e function goes to 1, and then 1-1 is zero, so I becomes zero. Then from R=V/I we have 0/0. Now I was taught that this is not just zero, since we need to know which one approaches zero faster using l'hospital's (not sure if this is how you spell it) rule. Does this apply here though?

Also from the V vs I graph of Sockley's equation we see that the slope,1/R becomes less steep and approaches zero, which would mean the resistance is getting bigger, and approaching its standard value.
 

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