Should cadmium sulfate affect the pH of my buffer?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of Cadmium Sulfate on the pH of a Sodium Acetate buffer solution. Participants explore the chemical interactions involved, particularly focusing on hydrolysis and complexation, while questioning the observed pH changes upon the addition of Cadmium Sulfate.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that their 0.2M Sodium Acetate solution has an unexpected pH of 7.8 instead of the calculated pH of 9, and that adding Cadmium Sulfate causes a drop in pH.
  • Another participant questions whether the Cadmium Sulfate is added as a solid or in solution, suggesting that metal cations can lower pH by reacting with water.
  • A participant explains that the hydrolysis of Cadmium ions can produce hydrogen ions, which would contribute to a decrease in pH, citing a specific pKa value.
  • There is a mention of the potential for Cadmium to react with other substances in the solution, not just water, which could also affect pH.
  • One participant discusses the complexation of Cadmium by acetate ions, indicating that a significant portion of Cadmium may become complexed in solution, which could influence the pH change observed.

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Participants express differing views on the mechanisms by which Cadmium affects pH, with some emphasizing hydrolysis and others suggesting complexation or other reactions. There is no consensus on the primary cause of the pH change.

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Participants reference specific chemical reactions and conditions, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the concentrations and interactions of species in solution.

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I have a 0.2M solution of Sodium Acetate, (which surprisingly seems to be at pH7.8, (we calculated it should be around pH9)). We then add Cadmium Sulfate, and adjust the pH using acetic acid to pH5. However, when I add the Cadmium Sulfate the pH drops.

Surely this can't happen?
 
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Are you adding solid sulfate, or solution? If solution - what is its pH?

Cations of many metals are able to lower pH of the solution reacting with water.
 
Solid Cadmium Sulfate
 
How come a metal can affect pH if pH is a measure ph hydrogen ions?
 
See my previous answer. Hydrolyzis.
 
philip041 said:
I have a 0.2M solution of Sodium Acetate, (which surprisingly seems to be at pH7.8, (we calculated it should be around pH9)). We then add Cadmium Sulfate, and adjust the pH using acetic acid to pH5. However, when I add the Cadmium Sulfate the pH drops.

Surely this can't happen?

Cd^{++}\ +\ H_2O\ \rightarrow\ CdOH^+\ +\ H^+\ \ \ pKa\ =\ 7.6

So with Cadmium the reduction of pH is slight. Try to do the same with Hg++ or Fe+++.
 
lightarrow said:
Cd^{++}\ +\ H_2O\ \rightarrow\ CdOH^+\ +\ H^+\ \ \ pKa\ =\ 7.6

So with Cadmium the reduction of pH is slight. Try to do the same with Hg++ or Fe+++.

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You would love yourself, you just ignored what I have posted earlier. This is metal cation reacting with water, lowering pH. This reaction is called hydrolysis. It is all in this thread.
 
Yes, I read your post. I also read about hydrolysis. I also understand it. I also have a sense of humour. Get a grip.
 
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HA! I just saw you have an award for humour!
 
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The target is becoming lost here. Cadmium would be reacting with something, not necessarily water, affecting the pH.
 
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Cadminum will also get complexed by acetate, up to four ligands per cation. Looks like in solution that is 0.1M in both Cd and acetate about 40% of cadmium will be complexed. However, concentration of undissociated acetic acid goes up (even if concentration of acetate anion goes down; one may expect that will shift dissociation right), so it must be cadmium hydrolysis that is responsible for the pH change.

0.1M CdCl2 and 0.1M NaAcetate.
 

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