Should I do all the exercises in Purcell & Morin's textbook?

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The discussion revolves around the value of completing exercises in Purcell & Morin's textbook on Electricity and Magnetism, particularly focusing on the distinction between problems with solutions and exercises without solutions. Participants explore whether the exercises are beneficial for learning and understanding the material, given the lack of immediate feedback on their answers.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the worth of doing exercises without solutions, expressing concern about not knowing if their answers are correct.
  • Another participant suggests doing a few exercises based on proficiency and the specific topic, recommending that students check their answers for problems and adjust the number of exercises accordingly.
  • Some participants emphasize that exercises provide an opportunity to practice and reinforce learning, even without immediate feedback.
  • There is a suggestion that in real-life scenarios, solutions are not readily available, which may justify the value of attempting exercises.
  • One participant notes that checking derived equations against the context of the problem can serve as a form of validation, despite the absence of direct answers.
  • Concerns are raised about the inability to confirm the correctness of derived equations without solutions, questioning the effectiveness of the exercises in ensuring proper understanding.
  • Another participant points out that exercises are often included for instructors to assign as homework, implying their intended purpose in the learning process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the value of exercises without solutions. While some advocate for their importance in practice and learning, others remain skeptical about their effectiveness due to the lack of feedback on correctness. The discussion does not reach a consensus on whether the exercises are worth doing.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the distinction between problems with solutions and exercises without, indicating that this may affect their approach to studying. The discussion reflects varying levels of confidence and proficiency among participants, which may influence their perspectives on the exercises.

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Hi everyone,

I'm studying E&M using Purcell & Morin's textbook. The end of chapter exercises are divided into problems (has detailed solutions) and exercises (no solutions whatsoever). I know I should do all the problems, but is ti worth it doing the exercises. I mean, if I try the problem, I'll never know if I have the right solution, so are the exercises worth doing?
 
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I would do at least a couple exercises, depending on the specific topic and how proficient you are at it. I would say do the problems, and check your answers. See how many you get wrong, and look over the solutions and figure out where you went wrong. Do about as many exercises as problems you got wrong, and increase or decrease depending on how well you do with it and the specific lesson covered.
 
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I would do at least a couple exercises, depending on the specific topic and how proficient you are at it. I would say do the problems, and check your answers. See how many you get wrong, and look over the solutions and figure out where you went wrong. Do about as many exercises as problems you got wrong, and increase or decrease depending on how well you do with it and the specific lesson covered.

So you're saying that I should do the exercises that deal with the same subject as the problems I was struggling with. But, how do I know if I' got them right? There's 33 problems (with soln) and 50 exercises (w/o soln).
 
Maybe I'm misunderstanding this, but if the problems have solutions can't you check your answers? And also, 33 problems is more than I was expecting, though the general thing I suggested should still work.
 
The end of the chapter things are divided into 2 sections:

1) Problems-these have detailed solutions

2) Exercises-these have no solutions whatsoever

this helps?

The main question I have is if it's worth doing the exercises (#2 above). Since they don't have the answers in the back, is it worth doing? I'll never know if my answers are right.
 
In real-life problems, e.g. when you're doing research, you don't have "answers in the back of the book."

Look for alternate solution methods to provide a check on your calculations.
 
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gimak asks this:
The main question I have is if it's worth doing the exercises (#2 above). Since they don't have the answers in the back, is it worth doing? I'll never know if my answers are right.

Check your solution in the equations you obtained or derived to find if they work.
 
But since you don't have the right answer, you don't know if the equations you derived are right. So, how can you know if you have the right approach to begin with?
 
The point of an "exercise" - a problem that doesn't come with a solution that can easily be looked up in the back of the book, is that it's an opportunity to practice using what you've learned thus far. You can use them as you feel you get something out of them.

Generally these are included in a textbook for the professors to give as homework assignments.
 
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gimak said:
But since you don't have the right answer, you don't know if the equations you derived are right. So, how can you know if you have the right approach to begin with?
You will observe that many textbooks have a section in the back for answers to the odd numbered problems, but the even numbered problem answers are not listed. Same idea.
 

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