Should I Take Calculus 3 as a Junior in High School?

  • Context: High School 
  • Thread starter Thread starter hamburgler
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Calculus Calculus 3
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around whether a high school junior should take Calculus 3 at a nearby college given their concerns about a weak grasp of calculus. Participants explore the implications of this decision on college applications and the importance of foundational understanding in calculus.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about their readiness for Calculus 3, citing a weak understanding of calculus as a concern.
  • Another suggests that taking Calculus I and II at a college might provide better preparation than jumping directly into Calculus 3.
  • Some participants argue that admissions officers are unlikely to penalize a student for retaking courses if it leads to a better understanding.
  • Concerns are raised about the varying quality of calculus instruction at different colleges, with some participants noting that AP Calculus can lead to misconceptions or inadequate preparation.
  • There is a suggestion that students often repeat calculus courses in college, even after performing well in AP classes, due to insufficient understanding.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of mastering foundational concepts before advancing to higher-level calculus.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of having a solid understanding of calculus before advancing, but there is disagreement on whether taking Calculus 3 is advisable given the participant's current level of understanding. Some advocate for retaking earlier courses, while others suggest moving forward if there is some foundational knowledge.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the variability in college calculus instruction and the potential for students to have different experiences based on their prior education and understanding. There is also mention of the potential stigma associated with retaking courses, which remains unresolved.

hamburgler
Messages
22
Reaction score
0
Um I don't know if this is the right forum to post this but w/e:

I'm taking calc BC right now as a junior and my teacher gave me the option to take calc 3 at a college nearby. However, my grasp of calculus is...weak. I think it would look great for college apps, but I fear complete failure taking calc 3...


What do you, members of PF, think I should do?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
How about taking Calculus I & II at a College? Least you'll be learning and being taught it at a College level. It will prepare you far more than continuing on knowing you're Calculus is weak. It's just too important! You're still young, and I'm glad that you're not blindly jumping into the ocean.
 
Yeah that's what I would optimally prefer to do, but I'm afraid that admissions officers reviewing my application will look down upon, wondering why I am taking the course twice.
 
hamburgler said:
Yeah that's what I would optimally prefer to do, but I'm afraid that admissions officers reviewing my application will look down upon, wondering why I am taking the course twice.

It won't have bearing on anything, there's nothing wrong with re-taking a class if you feel you need more time to understand it.
 
hamburgler said:
Yeah that's what I would optimally prefer to do, but I'm afraid that admissions officers reviewing my application will look down upon, wondering why I am taking the course twice.
Screw them and that isn't the kind of attitude you should have towards your future! Having a solid foundation is too important. If they give you crap about it, just say your HS sucked and you wanted a better treatment ;)
 
do what you need to do not what will look good
 
Last edited:
The issue seems to be not what you should do in your situation, but what is your situation.
-if you really do not understand any of what you have learned by all means reteke
-if you have some understanding review and take the next one
thoughts
AP Calculus has caused some problems
-at some colleges they
1) Teach calculus as remedial (you should no this by now)
2) Teach calculus like AP calculus
3) Teach calculus like the do not care
hello 700 students Me id newt to yous lands I's will be taught yours der ricci calculi for me be's fisrt years student grad!
4) Teach calculus from terrible books
if any of 1-4 apply run don't walk away from that calculsu class

Maybe you understand better than you think
No one understands every thing and better students better understand what they do not understand better
If you have some basic understanding and computational ability some more time an practice could help more than you expect

AP Calculus has causes
-Bad Calculus instruction
-students who view it as practice
as such it is quite commom for students to repeat AP classes (even when the got A's and 5's) in college
that is not bad, but what is bad is if
they give 50% effort each attemp
learn little of wrong stuff on one or both attemps
 
I definitely agree that it is more important to go back and master the stuff from Calculus I & II. There were three high school kids in my math class last semester and they barely squeaked by. Save yourself the gas and find a solid text on single variable calculus.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 22 ·
Replies
22
Views
7K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 36 ·
2
Replies
36
Views
6K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
4K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
6K
Replies
13
Views
4K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
4K