Should I Take the Part-Time Job or Stick with Full-Time?

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The discussion revolves around the dilemma of choosing between a full-time job at a cafe and a part-time job at a clothing store in Vieux Quebec City. Participants explore the implications of job commitments, loyalty to employers, and the feasibility of managing multiple jobs.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses excitement about moving to Quebec City and having secured a full-time job but is considering a part-time job that they desire more.
  • Another participant suggests that one should prioritize happiness and consider taking the part-time job, while also emphasizing the importance of loyalty to the employer of the full-time job.
  • A different participant shares their experience of successfully managing two jobs by coordinating schedules with both employers.
  • Some participants discuss the potential for tips at the cafe, which could enhance overall earnings, especially in a tourist area.
  • Concerns about loyalty are raised, with some arguing that the commitment to the full-time job should be honored, while others feel that loyalty is not owed before starting work.
  • One participant mentions that they have received both job offers and plans to work part-time at both the cafe and the clothing store.
  • There are discussions about the nature of Quebec French compared to formal French, highlighting cultural nuances and language differences.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the importance of loyalty to an employer and the ethics of changing jobs after accepting an offer. There is no consensus on whether one should prioritize the full-time job or pursue the part-time opportunity.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the implications of job commitments and personal happiness without resolving the ethical considerations surrounding loyalty and job acceptance.

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Alright, I would ask my friends but they're pretty much useless with regards to this

I'm moving away for the summer to Quebec City. I landed a full-time job at a cafe right in the heart of the city, and its in Vieux Quebec (Old Quebec City). It's a new cafe and it's definitely a really nice place.

I got the job right after the interview. The dilemma comes because I had an interview at a job I really want and would love to have which is at a clothing store that is also in the heart of Vieux Quebec. They interviewed me on the spot, and they seem to like me a lot. So, they called about an hour after I accepted the other job (a day after the interview) and asked for my references. I needed 2 more references but I had to wait until I got back home because I live 10 hours away!

Anyways, I'm pretty positive I am getting the job today (waiting for the call).

The problem is that this job is part-time while the other is full-time. If it's full-time (which it can be), I'll just tell the cafe I accepted another job. If it is part-time, I was considering on asking both places if they would be willing to share the time.

What are your thoughts about this?

Note: I'm definitely excited about going!

My thoughts are if it is part-time, I'll ask the clothing store right away whether or not they would be interested in sharing a part-time job with another place, if not, I'll just stick with the full-time. If yes, I'll ask the full-time place if they're interested. If the full-time place is not interested, I was considering just finding another part-time job.
 
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While my approach to such things is that you should do what makes you happy (ie: take the part-time and supplement it), I also have a loyalty issue. It was a mistake to accept the full-time job if you still had aspirations in the other direction. Having taken the job, you should man-up and fulfill your commitment to that employer.
 
My younger daughter has held two jobs before and just advised them of her scheduling requirements. They both agreed. If you can't work out a schedule that fits the needs of both employers, you might not have the option, but it's worth a shot. And congrats on the jobs!
 
Danger said:
While my approach to such things is that you should do what makes you happy (ie: take the part-time and supplement it), I also have a loyalty issue. It was a mistake to accept the full-time job if you still had aspirations in the other direction. Having taken the job, you should man-up and fulfill your commitment to that employer.

A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush.

I'd never turn down a job if I didn't have one. (Well, almost. There would probably be a few, but I know I've accepted some pretty lousy jobs.)

As far as loyalty goes, do you have so much loyalty to your employer that the only way you'll change jobs is if your employer lays you off or fires you? I don't think you owe much loyalty to the first job, especially before you even start working there.
 
BobG said:
As far as loyalty goes, do you have so much loyalty to your employer that the only way you'll change jobs is if your employer lays you off or fires you? I don't think you owe much loyalty to the first job, especially before you even start working there.

Yeah, I never started there yet. That's exactly how I felt. I don't feel like I owe them lots of loyatly.

The part-time job pays better per hour than the other also so a mix of both would be perfect. I've held to part-times before, so it should be doable.
 
Cool jason. They both sound like fun jobs to have!

(Hook me up with some expresso and nice clothes)
 
Would you make tips at the cafe? The pay might end up better when you add tips, especially in a touristy area like Old Quebec City (lovely place to get to live and work by the way).

I'd see if you could work both jobs too...lots of young people do it (and not so young people who need to make ends meet). For example, work weekends in the cafe when you would earn most tips, and three other days of the week as your full time job, and then the other two days in the clothing store, and maybe a few extra evening hours the other days of the week. Heck, when it's summer and businesses are open late for tourists, and you don't have any other responsibilities other than work, you could even hold down two full time jobs and really save up cash quickly.
 
Maybe the full-time employer will let you work part-time.

Jason, parlez-vous francais? (Did I remember that right :redface: ?)

I took several years of French in school, but I've forgotten all of it. Recently I've been trying to re-learn it because I have contact with Quebecois often in my job. I'm terrible at it, and mostly just manage to embarrass myself.
 
lisab said:
Maybe the full-time employer will let you work part-time.

Jason, parlez-vous francais? (Did I remember that right :redface: ?)

I took several years of French in school, but I've forgotten all of it. Recently I've been trying to re-learn it because I have contact with Quebecois often in my job. I'm terrible at it, and mostly just manage to embarrass myself.

Quebec French is not the formal French, and if you spoke it in central France (namely Paris), people would laugh at you when you're not looking. The written language is the same, but the Quebec French bears a very strong accent when spoken. Also I find that, in general, French use fewer slangs and speak a richer language - though that's obviously up to the individual.
 
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Werg22 said:
Quebec French is not the formal French, and if you spoke it in central France (namely Paris), people would laugh at you when you're not looking. The written language is the same, but the Quebec French bears a very strong accent when spoken. Also I find that, in general, French use fewer slangs and speak a richer language - though that's obviously up to the individual.
The French spoken in the border regions of northern Maine is even more convoluted, and is loaded with "Franglais" - English words that were adopted and adapted by the French-speaking natives.
 
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BobG said:
As far as loyalty goes, do you have so much loyalty to your employer that the only way you'll change jobs is if your employer lays you off or fires you?


Not exactly, but I'm quite happy where I am. When she interviewed me for the job, I promised that if she hired me I would work for at least 6 months even if I didn't like it or got a better offer. Finding (good) new employees is not an easy thing to do. I think that if someone decides that an applicant is hireable, and does indeed hire him/her, then that employer deserves the decency of the hiree at least pretending to actually want the job long enough to demonstrate some appreciation for the trust.
 
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Why should you make promises about the future when you know nothing about it? I don't value such things because there is no basis for it . That's not loyalty in my books. And you need to earn loyalty, I don't just hand it out.

Anyways, I got both jobs which is really nice!

I'm working at Simons, which is www.simons.ca I'm sure Cyrus would like that store. Go to stores, and look for the Vieux Quebec store. I also work at the cafe (now part-time) which is like brand new and is really nice. Now, I'm looking for a place to live in Vieux Quebec or Quebec City (prefereably in Vieux Quebec). I'm leaving in 3 weeks! :smile:

Note: Links for my store although I'm not positive if I'm allowed to post them.

http://www.simons.ca/Magasins/Magasins.aspx?ID=53a64a0b-92fa-4503-ac49-e3b07af198e9&menuID=53a64a0b-92fa-4503-ac49-e3b07af198e9

http://www.simons.ca/Magasins/DetailMagasins.aspx?ItemID=53a64a0b-92fa-4503-ac49-e3b07af198e9
 
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Wow, what a nice store!
 
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Darkiekurdo said:
Wow, what a nice store!

Yeah, it's very nice. :smile:
 
  • #15
Yeah, I like the stuff shown there! (Well, except that weird flamingo shirt and tie thing in the men's section.) Of course, I got through navigating the whole site (was working my way across the tabs on top) and THEN realized there was a tab to switch it to English. :smile: Good thing I don't need to know French to look at pictures. :rolleyes:
 
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  • #17
What waist size? :smile:
 

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