Should We Make Free Body Diagrams Mandatory for Student Help Requests?

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The discussion revolves around the necessity of free body diagrams (FBDs) in student help requests for physics problems, particularly in static and dynamic contexts. Participants explore the implications of making FBDs mandatory for effective problem-solving.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Some participants suggest that requiring FBDs could enhance problem-solving skills, while others question the practicality of this requirement due to accessibility issues with drawing tools. There are discussions about the effectiveness of current practices and the challenges faced by students in providing clear diagrams.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with various perspectives being shared. Some participants express support for the idea of mandatory FBDs, while others highlight potential barriers that could hinder students from complying. There is no clear consensus, but the dialogue is exploring the merits and challenges of the proposal.

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Participants note that not all students may have the resources or skills to create diagrams, which raises questions about the feasibility of enforcing such a requirement. There is also mention of existing guidelines that may not be followed by all users.

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Seems like everyone student requesting help here fails to show a drawing of a free body diagram for all static/dynamic problems. Perhaps this should be made mandatory. A free body diagram is the first step to solving problems. This will also help them develop good problem solving skills.
 
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That's not a bad idea, but not everyone has a scanner, and it can be a hassle to do if someone doesn't know how to some basic CG. I often find MS paint to be way too messy when constructing an FBD. Actually, if anyone knows of any good programs for drawing FBDs, unit vector triads, or even simple schematics of rods, springs, dampers, and the like let me know. Photoshopping all of these is overkill, granted the drawings look nice, but they take WAY too long to do. CATIA would be nice for rigid bodies, but I don't have a license for it :(
 
Well that's now what I meant.
I meant something like this. Simple:

Fy
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|\
|.\
|..\
|...\
|...\..T= 222N
|...\
|...\
|...\
|...\
|___60_\____>Fx
 
The problem here is that (and this is simply a guess based on what I've observed) we would be simply preaching to the choir.

People who would have read the Sticky would tend to already know that they would need to explain their question clearly and know what they need to show. It is the people who simply jump in here (or worse, posted their question in the main PF section), post some cryptic question, and expect people to be able to read their minds on what they want.

It is ALWAYS nice to have a diagram, not just a FBD, when solving a physics problem. It would be lovely if everyone include that with their questions. Unfortunately, people who should be showing that due to their poorly-worded posting tend to not pay attention to the Sticky and are less likely to spend time making a sketch to be uploaded here.

Zz.
 

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