Show Lx is Hermitian: Homework Equation Integration

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating that the operator Lx, representing angular momentum in three dimensions, is Hermitian. The original poster presents the necessary condition for an operator to be Hermitian, involving integrals of functions f and g with respect to Lx.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of integration by parts to show the Hermitian property, with the original poster expressing uncertainty about the integration process. There are attempts to clarify the setup of the integration, particularly regarding the variables involved and the correct expressions for u and dv.

Discussion Status

Guidance has been offered regarding the integration process, with suggestions to focus on specific integrals and to clarify the definitions of u and v. Multiple interpretations of the integration steps are being explored, but there is no explicit consensus on the final approach.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement, which requires showing the Hermitian nature of Lx without providing complete solutions. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to navigate the complexities of the mathematical reasoning involved.

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Homework Statement



I have to show that in 3-d, Lx (angular momentum) is Hermitian.

Homework Equations



In order to be Hermitian: Integral (f Lx g) = Integral (g Lx* f)
Where Lx=(hbar)/i (y d/dz - z d/dy)
and f and g are both well behaved functions: f(x,y,z) and g(x,y,z)

The Attempt at a Solution



I know to do this I have to do integration by parts. I got to the point where I had to figure out, using integration by parts,: Integral [f(x,y,z) y (dg(x,y,z)/dz) dx]

And I cannot figure this out :(

I set:
u=f(x,y,z) y
dv=(dg(x,y,z)/dz) dx

So then I get: du=[df(x,y,z)/dx]y + f(x,y,z)
But what is v then?? Unless I'm completely off-track already, in which case, help would be great!
 
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You need to multiply by dx dy dz, and integrate over all three, not just dx. This should make the integration by parts much easier.
 
As in...

u=f(x,y,z)y
dv=(dg(x,y,z)/dz) dxdydz

So that...

du = (df/dx)y + (df/dx)y + f + (df/dz)y
v=...?

Still not sure :(
 
Focus on the z integral (because the derivative is with respect to z). So du = (df/dz)y.
 
oh, and then v is just g(x,y,z)...
 
Yep!
 
great, thanks!
 
Since L_{x} (or rather its closure in the strong topology of L^{2}(R^3)) generates a uniparametric subgroup of the group of unitary operators which represent a rotation (around an arbitrary axis) in a Hilbert space, then, by Stone's theorem, L_{x} is e.s.a. and its closure is s.a. But all e.s.a. operators are hermitian/symmetric. QED
 
Yeah, that's what I *meant* to say ...
 

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