Show that diagonals in a diamond (rhombus) are orthogonal

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The discussion revolves around proving that the diagonals of a rhombus (diamond) are orthogonal. Participants explore vector notation and properties of dot products in the context of this geometric proof.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions understanding that the dot product of the diagonals being zero indicates they are orthogonal, but expresses confusion about a specific step in the proof.
  • Another participant suggests that the relationship $$\overline{AB}\cdot\left(\overline{AD}-\overline{BC} \right)=0$$ is relevant, implying that this holds because $$\overline{AD}=\overline{BC}$$.
  • A later reply clarifies the confusion regarding the rewriting of the dot product and confirms that the equality of the sides $$AD$$ and $$BC$$ is crucial to the argument.
  • Another participant introduces vector notation, explaining how to express the diagonals in terms of vectors and notes that the equality of the sides leads to a dot product resulting in zero.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and confusion regarding specific steps in the proof. There is no clear consensus on the resolution of the proof, as some participants are still grappling with the details.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the importance of vector notation and the equality of the sides in a rhombus, but there are unresolved aspects regarding the specific steps in the proof and how they relate to the orthogonality of the diagonals.

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Hello MHB,
I am working with a exemple that I think they got some incorrect.
Exemple 10.Show that diagonals in a diamond(romb) is orthogonal.

I understand that $$AC•BD=0$$ cause of dot product and if it's orthogonal the angle is $$\frac{\pi}{2}$$
I understand all the part until the step before the last one
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Edit: last part got cut in picture, it should be: $$|BC|^2-|AB|^2=0$$

Regards,
$$|\pi\rangle$$
 
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Re: Show that diagonala in a diamond(romb) is orthogonal

Are you talking about how:

$$\overline{AB}\cdot\left(\overline{AD}-\overline{BC} \right)=0$$ ?

If so, this is because:

$$\overline{AD}=\overline{BC}$$
 
Re: Show that diagonala in a diamond(romb) is orthogonal

MarkFL said:
Are you talking about how:

$$\overline{AB}\cdot\left(\overline{AD}-\overline{BC} \right)=0$$ ?

If so, this is because:

$$\overline{AD}=\overline{BC}$$
Hello Mark!
Thanks for the fast respond! Now evrything make sense! I did confuse myself and thought they did rewrite $$AB•AD=AB•(AD-BC)$$ but they did rewrite $$AB•AD-BC•AB=AB(AD-BC)$$ and indeed $$AD=BC$$ so we could also rewrite that as $$AB(BC-BC)$$ or $$AB(AD-AD)$$. I did not see that.. Thanks a lot evrything make sense now!

Regards,
$$|\pi\rangle$$
 
Petrus said:
Hello MHB,
I am working with a exemple that I think they got some incorrect.
Exemple 10.Show that diagonals in a diamond(romb) is orthogonal.

There is little new in my post except to point out some advantages of vector notation.

Use \overrightarrow {AB} as the vector from A to B and \|\overrightarrow {AB}\| as the length of the vector.

Now if \overrightarrow {AB} ~\&~\overrightarrow {AD} are adjacent sides of a convex quadrilateral, then the diagonals are \overrightarrow {AB}+\overrightarrow {AD}~\&~\overrightarrow {AB}-\overrightarrow {AD}.

Note that \left( {\overrightarrow {AB} + \overrightarrow {AD} } \right) \cdot \left( {\overrightarrow {AB} - \overrightarrow {AD} } \right) = {\left\| {\overrightarrow {AB} } \right\|^2} - {\left\| {\overrightarrow {AD} } \right\|^2}.

But in a rhombus those two sides are equal length, giving us zero.
 

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