Show That f(x,y) Must Be a Constant: A Complex Harmonic Function

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The discussion revolves around the properties of a complex harmonic function f(x,y) and the implications of its square also being harmonic. Participants are tasked with demonstrating that f(x,y) must be a constant under these conditions, exploring concepts related to harmonic functions and their characteristics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss various attempts to show that f is constant, including calculations involving the Laplace equations and the implications of harmonicity. Questions arise about the definitions of harmonic functions, the maximum principle, and whether the function should be considered complex or real.

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The discussion is ongoing, with several participants questioning assumptions and definitions related to harmonic functions. Some have suggested alternative approaches, while others express confusion about the nature of the function being analyzed. There is no explicit consensus on the interpretation of the problem or the path forward.

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Participants note that the problem may involve a misunderstanding of whether f(x,y) is a complex or real harmonic function. There are references to the Laplacian and its implications, as well as the need for clarity on the definitions being used in the context of the problem.

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Let f(x,y)=u+iv be a complex harmonic function such that (f(x,y))2 is also harmonic (both on a domain D). Show that f(x,y) must be a constant

I've attempted to show this through brute force, but perhaps there is something more elegant? I know that the Laplace equations must hold, so what I have done (I'll spare the readers the details) is to calculate out f(x,y)2, separate the real and imaginary parts in terms of u and v, and calculate the second order partial derivatives for the Laplace equations. After some calculation and cancellation (in particular of the second partials using the fact that f itself is harmonic), I get:

ux2+uy2-vx2-vy2=0

and

uxvy+uxvy=0

I need to somehow get from these two equations to the fact that f is constant. Looking at this, it seems like I'm just a step away, but I am missing something. Any suggestions on what I might be overlooking?
 
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Did you think about trying to use the maximum principle?
 


unfortunately, we haven't covered the maximum principle yet. Of course, I could try to include the proof as part of my solution, but the fact that it hasn't been discussed yet suggests to me that there must be another way of solving.
 


Judging more by the title thread than what you actually stated in it, if f(x,y)^2=C a constant, then f(x,y) has a choice of at most two possible values in D. The two square roots of C. If f(x,y) is harmonic then it must be continuous. So it can't switch values. Is it that simple?
 


No, sorry, my error. That should have said "if the square is also harmonic."
 


mimsy57 said:
No, sorry, my error. That should have said "if the square is also harmonic."

Well, if f(x,y)=x+iy (which is complex harmonic, I think) then f(x,y)^2=(x^2-y^2)+2xyi. f(x,y)^2 is complex harmonic, isn't it? Now I really don't get what the question is. Do you mean f(x,y) to be real harmonic?
 
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If what you are saying in your last post is correct, then the problem itself wouldn't make sense. But what are you using to determine that f^2 is harmonic? The product of harmonic functions need not be harmonic.

Also, just to clarify with my confusing title:

Assumptions: f and f^2 are harmonic
Need to show: f is constant
 


What is your definition of a complex harmonic function? Is it just a function f:R^2->C such that u(x,y)=Re(f(x,y)) and v(x,y)=Im(f(x,y)) are real harmonic functions, i.e. satisfy the Laplace equation u_xx+u_yy=v_xx+v_yy=0?

If so, then Dick's f(x,y)=x+iy is a counterexample to the claim "f and f^2 harmonic => f is constant".
 


mimsy57 said:
If what you are saying in your last post is correct, then the problem itself wouldn't make sense. But what are you using to determine that f^2 is harmonic? The product of harmonic functions need not be harmonic.

Also, just to clarify with my confusing title:

Assumptions: f and f^2 are harmonic
Need to show: f is constant

I'm checking that the laplacian of x^2-y^2 and xy are zero. But I didn't really need to. f(x,y)=x+iy is analytic. So f(x,y)^2 is analytic. Your problem makes sense if f:R^2->R. I.e. if f(x,y) is real (not complex) harmonic.
 
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Maybe I am having some deeper conceptual problem. I am now confused on several points (I think Morphism may have hit on it in that I am most likely misunderstanding what it means to be a complex harmonic function):

1. How is the function f(x,y)=x+iy harmonic? u would be x and v would be y, and neither has a laplacian equal to zero. u_x+u_y=1+0=1. So this can't be a counterexample because it contradicts the hypotheses.

2. Harmonic implies analytic but not vice versa, right? So I'm not sure what that comment meant.

3. Back to morphism, let's say for a moment that this were a real function. The problem wouldn't even make sense then right? If f(x,y) is harmonic then f_x+f_y=0. The Laplacian of f(x,y)^2 would be 2*f(x,y)*f_x+2*f(x,y)*f_y=2f(x,y)(f_x+f_y)=0, so it would always be harmonic, and there would be nothing to force it to be constant. I can't find any other definition of a complex harmonic function though, so I am completely lost.

I hope all this helps point out where my misunderstanding is!
 
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The Laplacian is \partial_{xx}+\partial_{yy} and not \partial_x+\partial_y. Maybe this is what's tripping you up!

(And no: harmonic doesn't imply analytic. What is true is that analytic implies real and imaginary parts are (real) harmonic - this follows from the Cauchy-Riemann equations.)
 
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oh okay, just figured part of my confusion out. If the whole function is analytic then each part is harmonic and they have to be harmonic conjugates. Still confused on the other portions.
 
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ha, that's embarrassing (I really did know that as you can see from my first post). I've been looking at this one too long. Thanks! So it must be that it is supposed to be a real function, not complex. I'll have to check with the professor on that. So then it should be simpler. Now I'm getting the laplacian is 2((f_x)^2+f_xx+(f_y)^2+f_yy), which reduces because fxx+fyy must be zero since f is harmonic. So I am just left with (f_x)^2+(f_y)^2=0. From there I should be able to treat this as a differential equation? (That is another thing that bothers me, we keep integrating though we haven't proven the integrals exist!)
 
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mimsy57 said:
ha, that's embarrassing (I really did know that as you can see from my first post). I've been looking at this one too long. Thanks! So it must be that it is supposed to be a real function, not complex. I'll have to check with the professor on that. So then it should be simpler. Now I'm getting the laplacian is 2((f_x)^2+f_xx+(f_y)^2+f_yy), which reduces because fxx+fyy must be zero since f is harmonic. So I am just left with (f_x)^2+(f_y)^2=0. From there I should be able to treat this as a differential equation? (That is another thing that bothers me, we keep integrating though we haven't proven the integrals exist!)

If (f_x)^2+(f_y)^2=0 then f_x=0 and f_y=0.
 

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